Talk:Norwegian Folktales

One source
Tagged this article for reliance on once source. The source is a good one, but it is a paper and hence somewhat one-dimensional, i.e., in presenting the facts to support the author's thesis. This article (or at least the chief section) is imbued with the source's perspective; it is, consequently, neither comprehensive nor balanced. Richigi (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've taken the tag down. I looked at Rudvin's thesis that the previous post is apparently talking about. I could not source everything to this one source, so I googled for other works substantiating some of the other parts of the exposition. The only other significant one I consulted was Wells's contribution in the Encyclopedia of the Romantic Era. Wells's entry in the encyclopedia also touches exactly head-on Rudvin's central thesis: "Two things made [it] a success.. [being] in step with the spirit of the age, and the language and style [used]. Norway had gained a modicum of independence in 1814...etc." I suspect Wells might be aware of Rudvin's work, but since it is not presented as some minority or fringe opinion, I think it can pass for being conventional view and not skewed. I would ask a Norwegian on this point, but it appears that Asbjornsen and Moe's large role in the formation of the Bokmål language is undisputed.
 * On the point of not being "comprehensive" -- probably the majority of articles in wiki is subject to that criticism, but you can leave that to the apparatus of article assessment ("Start" or "B" rating). --Kiyoweap (talk) 19:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Ordering
Are these fairy tales listed in any particular order, or randomly? If the latter, then an appropriate ordering scheme should be implemented and made explicit in the article (alphabetically, chronologically - with the dates made explicit, or in the order listed in a compilation - which should be cited). Froid 11:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Most of them seem to be listed in the order they are presented in the original book, but many seems to just be added at some semi-random spot in the list. Maybe it would be better to make a sortable wikitable list?  -Laniala (talk) 19:30, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was listed in the order of the Dasent's English translation, not that of the "original book" (Asbjornsen & Moe). After some consideration, I've tabulated the list in the order of the AM# (Asbjornsen & Moe) that I have seen used for citation purposes by several commentators. The numbers run from 1-60 in the first collection and contiguously from 61-110 in the new collection. I realize it might would be more convenient for some of you to have it arranged in the order of Dasent's English translation as it was, but you can recover that order with one click using Da# as sort key, since it is a sortable wikitable. --Kiyoweap (talk) 19:45, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Individual folktale article naming convention
The majority of the individual folktale articles that have been created use Dasent's title. However, some users who created articles using the English titles from Pat Shaw Iverson's translations, which is not public domain though I've found them in webspace. Personally I don't endorse Dasent's titles for a couple of reasons, 1) Dasent occasionally uses creatively worded titles not exactly matching Norwegian titles, 2) Dasent did not translate tales 106-110, etc. In particular, I am not a fan of Dasent's usage of "Boots" as a translated name for "Askeladden". Iversen's title's are more closely translated, and I would prefer them, but the downside is he only did about 30 tales. So I don't see a perfect strategy of bringing consistency, short of using the original Norwegian title for every case. One article entitled White-Bear-King-Valemon seems to me an impromptu naming. --Kiyoweap (talk) 19:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Numbering of the legends (Huldre-Eventyr)
The numbers from 11 to 14 are ascribed to two tales each; the first volume ends in number 14 and then the next one starts with 11 again. I don't see the logic here.--94.155.68.202 (talk) 01:18, 24 September 2018 (UTC)