Talk:Noseband

There is a redirect from "grackel" to this page, which is confusing to Americans, as that is our name for the Starling. Furthermore, there does not seem to be any relevant mention of the word "grackel" in this page. Thus, I feel someone should clarify the matter, and possibly set up a disambiguation page.

"Grackel" is another name for the figure-8 noseband, and a term more commonly used in the UK (although it may now be out of use, but I've seen it used in books). I think a redirect page would be a good idea, that can send the person to both pages. Eventer

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 * Added rationale to article and image page. Hope this does the trick.   Montanabw (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Studded
This sentence is in the article now:


 * They act with the normal action of the noseband, which applies pressure to the nose when the horse fails to submit to the bit, and increases the effect of this pressure.

This is not clear, because some nosebands are independent of the bit, so would have no action regardless. --Una Smith (talk) 01:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

While wording can always be improved, any properly adjusted noseband can never be wholly independent of a bit if a bridle has a bit, because as both parts act in conjunction with one another. At the very least, standard nosebands come into play when horses try to open their mouths, twist their jaws, or otherwise try to avoid a bit. Some nontraditional designs will even act when rein pressure is applied to the bit. And obviously, some heavy nosebands are parts of a hackamore and used without a bit at all, but this article, as started by User:Eventer (who I think was the original contributor) was originally about nosebands on bridles, (i.e. bitted headgear), not about nosebands used on hackamores. (Another thought would be to create different subheadings in this article for English-style nosebands used on bridles versus nosebands on bridles used in other disciplines and stand-alone nosebands used on various hackamore designs.)   So  if you want to rephrase any of that to make more sense, give it a shot. Montanabw (talk) 18:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Caveson/Cavesson
Any way we can standardize the spelling on this one? In the UK, the double-s version is used almost exclusively; if both versions are acceptable in the US, would it be more 'universal' to use the double-s version? (ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 07:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC))


 * Consistency is good. I always use the double-s spelling, personally, but the single-s spelling got started here, and using all the various tools for resolving such disputes (number of google hits, etc.) I couldn't make a good argument for changing it.  I'd say let's work to keep it consistent within individual articles, anyway, and personally, I'm groovy with the double-s.   Montanabw (talk) 07:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


 * So can I 'go hunting' for any single-s occurrences and chew them, then? [wolfie pricks up ears in anticipation] (ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 11:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC))


 * Looks like you did! (do wolf cubs like doggie treats?)   Montanabw (talk) 22:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Wolfie-treats, lol! (ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 07:32, 18 February 2011 (UTC))


 * Too messy and they don't come in a bag! ;-)   Montanabw (talk) 23:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC)