Talk:Not My Presidents Day/Archive 2

"We the People" rally in Portland, Oregon
Commons has a gallery called We the People rally in Portland, Oregon (20 February 2017). If this is related to Not My Presidents Day, we should categorize appropriately and consider adding an image from the gallery to this article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:46, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

In your research about Portland, did you read about a "We the People" rally? Should this Common category be included under the Not My Presidents Day category and/or do we need to mention 'We the People' anywhere? If this is related, we can also add an image to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I haven't run into a We the People rally with Portland. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:29, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, see this source and this source. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:34, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The "We the People" rally still needs to be added to the article's prose, but I went ahead and moved the Commons category for "We the People" under the "Not My Presidents Day" umbrella. I also added an image to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:42, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I see. The We the People rally was the one with the permit. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you mind updating the article accordingly, and do you support the Commons categorization I described? Just making sure this works. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:49, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * . I've added the We the People to the Portland section. I'm not a big commons user (except to upload photos), so I trust your judgment with commons cats. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you. I am marking this section as resolved. Will also mark Portland as done below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Merge
I totally support this edit. I'm not sure everyone will agree, so I'm creating this section in case editors want to discuss the merge again. I was surprised to see a merge vote emerge from the AfD discussion. The article was nominated for deletion almost immediately after being created, which I think resulted in many people assessing the article prematurely, without conducting independent research. I think this event is clearly notable, and merging this much content into the Trump protests article is inappropriate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:56, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I added a summary of this article to the Protests against Donald Trump article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

This article has been saved! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:30, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Why is the article still existing? Wasn't the result of the previous AFD - merge into the Protests against Donald Trump article? GoodDay (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ... because it should exist. I commented further in the "AFD result: Merge" section below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:39, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * That was not the results of the AFD. closed that AFD as merge. GoodDay (talk) 18:44, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Right, well I doubt this is the only Wikipedia article that was expanded following a merge or even delete vote. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:06, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

AFD result: Merge
The results of the AFD was to merge this article into Protests against Donald Trump. Why are some of you 'now' going against this? GoodDay (talk) 18:22, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ... because we disagree with the result of the discussion and have taken time to expand the article. We have communicated our progress and invited all to help establish notability and expand the article to its fullest potential. See this discussion, too. User:CFCF removed the merge banner and User:JFG, who had previously voted to delete/merge the article, was fine with the banner removal from the talk page. We're now working to make sure there are no content gaps (see cities list above) and will nominate this article for Good status soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:37, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * You should be (at the least) having another AFD, instead of over-turning the results of the first AFD. GoodDay (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm certainly not going to initiate the discussion since I strongly believe the article should exist. IMO, the first nomination was premature, initiated minutes after the article was created. As a result, folks saw an incomplete article and may have cast merge/delete votes without doing their own research. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:46, 17 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you still think this article should be merged/deleted? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:49, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Should be merged. I participated in the aforementioned AFD. GoodDay (talk) 18:50, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, well, you do you and I'm going to keep pursuing Good article status here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:52, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't you follow through with the consensus decision if you're not going to start a new discussion? TheDracologist (talk) 05:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't remove the merge banner from the top of the article, and I'm not going to move forward with an action I oppose, so if someone else wants to take action, that's fine. In my opinion, this article clearly doesn't need to be merged at this point, so I don't see the need to go through another round of discussion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:59, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that you removed it. However, the fact that it has grown beyond the need for a merger is your opinion, not the consensus. If you want to go against the results of the discussion, you must establish a new consensus. Since you are unwilling to list it yourself, I'll see if I can get a discussion going. TheDracologist (talk) 21:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

See Talk:Not_My_Presidents_Day. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:43, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * See Deletion review/Log/2017 March 24. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:45, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2017 March 24 closed with no consensus. There have been several discussions on different pages, so I am archiving this discussion in an attempt to tie up loose ends. Please start a new discussion section if necessary, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Good article?
This article has been expanded since the merge vote. With some final research and reference formatting, I think this article might meet Good article criteria. Do you have any interest in helping me finish off this article and co-nominate for Good article status? If not, that's fine. If so, any thoughts? I'm considering creating a list of participating cities, which we can divide and do some 'googling' to make sure there aren't any final details to add. We might also comb through the article to make sure all reference formatting is appropriate and consistent.

Are there any other editors who would like to assist with this effort? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:43, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll help, . Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:28, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Fantastic, thank you! Below I've added a list of participating cities (there may be a couple missing cities, so keep an eye out) in alphabetical order:


 * Atlanta ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ann Arbor, Michigan (not listed in article yet) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:00, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Augusta, Maine ✅
 * Austin, Texas ✅
 * Baltimore ✅
 * Chicago ✅ Augusta, Austin, Baltimore and Chicago are covered. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Columbia, South Carolina More research needed here? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:13, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ I'm not seeing anything else about Columbia, so marking this as done. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:20, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Concord, NH (not listed in article yet) ✅
 * Note: This source and Daily Mail list the city, but I am unable to find local coverage of an event in Concord. If someone else wants to double check, that'd be great, then we can check off Concord from the list with no changes to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:31, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Confirmed by Megalibrarygirl below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:22, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Dallas ✅
 * Note: If Dallas details are added, we should create a subsection for Texas and include Austin-related content. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:58, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: I am having difficulty finding any details about Dallas. There are a couple sources mentioning Dallas in passing (example, example), but I can't find any local coverage. If someone wants to double check, that would be great, then we can check this off as done but with no updates to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:15, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Confirmed by Megalibrarygirl below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:22, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Denver ✅ Covered. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Eugene, Oregon ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:33, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Gainesville, Florida ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:58, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Grand Rapids, Michigan ✅
 * Great Barrington, Massachusetts ✅
 * Note: This Brattleboro Reformer article is a reprint of the Berkshire Eagle source, which is already included in the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:48, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Greensboro, North Carolina (not listed in article yet) ✅
 * Note: This source and Daily Mail list the city, but I am unable to find local coverage of an event in Greensboro. If someone else wants to double check, that'd be great, then we can check off Greensboro from the list with no changes to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:21, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Confirmed by Megalibrarygirl below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:22, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hackensack, New Jersey ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:00, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Honolulu I found a mention here. There is something on Newspapers.com, but it's behind a paywall. >.< Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The article you mentioned is about anti-Trump protests in general, and not the NMPD protest, specifically. I can't find any other info re: Honolulu, so I am going to make this city as done. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:03, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Indianapolis, IN (not listed in article yet) ✅
 * Note: This source and Daily Mail list the city, but I am unable to find local coverage of an event in Indianapolis. If someone else wants to double check, that'd be great, then we can check off Indianapolis from the list with no changes to the article. Not that you follow every event in Indianapolis, but do you happen to recall hearing about any "Not My Presidents Day"-related activities? --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 22:14, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * @User:Another Believer I have no clue if Indianapolis had one. I don't even know if Sonoma, where I live now, had one! Tells you how involved I was in this day. ;-) Missvain (talk) 23:34, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hah!, no worries, just thought I'd ask. Thanks for replying! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:40, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Confirmed by Megalibrarygirl below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:22, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Kansas City, Missouri ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:17, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Knoxville, Tennessee ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:14, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Las Vegas (not listed in article yet) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:38, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: A news channel initially said the anti-Trump rally in Las Vegas was related to NMPD, then corrected to say the event was unaffiliated. I made a note of this in the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:38, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * London? (see above "Cities" section) ✅ See "International?" section below for discussion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:08, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Los Angeles ✅ Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:06, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Marquette, Michigan ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:07, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Miami ✅ Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Milwaukee ✅ Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:29, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Nashville ✅
 * Note: This source and Daily Mail list the city, but I am unable to find local coverage of an event in Nashville. If someone else wants to double check, that'd be great, then we can check off Nashville from the list with no changes to the article.
 * Confirmed by Megalibrarygirl below. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:22, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * New Paltz (village), New York ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * New York City ✅ I feel like we've gotten all of the sources. For some reason, this was not covered in the New York Times! Most of the coverage is repetitive. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:42, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Newark, New Jersey ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:13, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ocala, Florida ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:58, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ocean City, New Jersey ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Palm Desert, California ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Pasadena, California (not listed in article yet) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:02, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Philadelphia ✅ Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:31, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Portland, Oregon ✅ (Thanks to Megalibrarygirl.) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Rapid City, South Dakota ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:57, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Saint Paul, Minnesota ✅ I also found info about Minneapolis and a joint "Twin city" event. However, I think this is done, though it's still small. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:01, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Salt Lake City ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:15, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * San Antonio ✅ There was flooding in SA at the time. No protest. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:35, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * San Diego ✅ Covered. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * San Francisco (not in article yet, but mentioned by Funcrunch below) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * San Jose (per SF) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * San Mateo (per SF) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:15, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Santa Barbara, CA (not listed in article yet) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:10, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Seattle (per this source, which is currently also used in the Atlanta section) ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:33, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Venice, Florida ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:44, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Washington, D.C. ✅ I feel like this one is done. I did find info on crowd size finally and added it. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * West Palm Beach, Florida ✅ I found one additional source. I think this is done. ;) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * White Plains, New York ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:56, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

We need to check for content gaps. Can you help by researching a specific city to make sure we've included appropriate details for each demonstration? I've been doing this by googling "Not My Presidents Day"+"Baltimore", or whichever city of interest. While updating the article about a specific city, can you also check to make sure the references are formatted properly? When you're done with a city, just check off the above list. This way we can easily divide and conquer, and ensure the article is more complete before nominating for Good article status. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Pinging just in case you're interested in helping with this effort. No prob if not! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I have the energy to participate in this alongside the other battles issues I'm dealing with right now. If it helps, there were some protesters here in the SF Bay Area too (sources: 1, 2). I'm surprised there weren't more, as we've often had large turnouts at these kinds of protests even in the rain, but it might just be burnout... (at least that's why I wasn't there taking photos myself :-P ) Funcrunch (talk) 20:52, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries whatsoever, 'twas just an invitation. Thanks for providing sources. I've added San Francisco to the list of participating cities requiring research above. And I totally understand re: exhaustion. There's too much to keep up with both on-wiki and in real life. Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:03, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I added San Jose and San Mateo to your list as they were also mentioned in the sources I cited. Thanks for understanding :-) Funcrunch (talk) 21:06, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Fantastic, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:08, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ These sources have been added to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I've updated the list to include all of the cities mentioned here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:06, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

No rush whatsoever, but if/when you have a moment, are you able to confirm that you cannot find details for the following cities: Concord, Dallas, Greensboro, Indianapolis, and Nashville? If not, I will go ahead and mark these cities as 'done' (as far as research goes) and move on to research some of the other cities in this list. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:54, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I can look this coming hour. Sorry for the slowness; on weekends I am a sporadic contributor depending on what life throws at me. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:45, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing news coverage of Dallas, Concord, Greensboro, Indianapolis and Nashville either on Google News nor in HighBeam. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:18, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for confirming. I will mark them as done above. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:21, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding this edit, did you search these cities to make sure there were not other details to add to the article? You mentioned they are 'covered' in the article, but my goal here is to make sure each city is thoroughly researched. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * My bad, . Let me go ahead and expand on anything I've struck through. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:03, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries, I just want to make sure we aren't missing any important details, such as number of participants, names of organizers, specific protest locations, etc. I went ahead and searched Augusta, Austin, and Baltimore, so I've checked those off as done above. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:05, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I assume there is more to add for Portland, where there were multiple demonstrations, and arrests. There is another section on this talk page re: the "We the People" rally and category at Commons -- more research needed here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:06, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right. I'll start researching Portland. Maybe the charges can be found, too. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:27, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks, I just unchecked Portland above to avoid confusion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:29, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Marked as done. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:12, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Update: I collapsed the list of cities for which we've completed research. Just 10 cities remain, which are marked as "not done" above. I'm just trying to make this page easier to read. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:28, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Los Angeles may be done. Even though it was large, it didn't seem to receive a lot of coverage. The LA Times mentions it only once. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Either of us can mark LA as done once we've had a chance to double check the Googles. :p --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:36, 22 March 2017 (UTC) ✅ --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 18:34, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Note: I've requested a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors, which I think is always a good idea before considering Good article status. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:10, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Update, especially for I've collapsed the above discussion to make this page easier to navigate. We have only 4 cities still needing thorough research: New York City, Saint Paul, Washington, D.C., and West Palm Beach. There is still an ongoing discussion re: this article's merge and expansion. I've worked to create a few maps, which are now displayed in the article, and I'm curious for additional feedback about whether or not they should be included. We're getting very close to being able to nominate this article for Good status! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:41, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

I am archiving this section, which is very long and detailed, and ask editors to create a new section if further discussion is needed re: specific cities. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:14, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Good article nomination
I have co-nominated this article for Good status, with User:Megalibrarygirl. Note to reviewer and other editors: I went with the "Culture, sociology and psychology" subcategory, but debated listing the article under the "Politics and government" category. Please speak up if you think the latter category is more appropriate. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:48, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Request for Comment
Not My Presidents Day was nominated for deletion and the result was merge to Protests against Donald Trump, but some editors are expanding the article, with the goal of a good article nomination. They argue that the article has grown since then and oppose the merger. However, they refuse to open up another discussion about the merger, so I'm opening one for them. Should we follow through with the results of the AfD or overturn them? (Note for posterity: The words "overturn them" used to say "keep the article". I just reworded for clarity.) TheDracologist (talk) 21:21, 23 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Strong keep, as article creator, co-expander, and (near) future Good article co-nominator. This subject was notable from the start, and unfortunately the community voted incorrectly in the AfD discussion. The article was nominated immediately after being created, so I think people started casting votes to merge the incomplete article without really taking time to research the subject's notability. Since the merge vote, the article has been expanded. I did not see a reason to waste editors' time with another round of discussion, but here we are, and now I hope editors will see that this event is notable and the article should be kept per WP:GNG. I plan on co-nominating this article for Good status as soon as User:Megalibrarygirl and I finish researching the 6 3 remaining cities listed above, and determine if we should mention the 2 reported international activities described here. Thanks for starting this discussion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:36, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm still not sure why you wouldn't do this yourself. If there's no consensus to overturn the AfD, the article just gets merged anyway, so why the reluctance to open a discussion to overturn the AfD? TheDracologist (talk) 22:00, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I assumed the article would not be merged following this edit made by User:CFCF and User:JFG's permission for me to remove the template from the merge banner here. In other words, multiple editors agreed to remove merge templates, and with the article majorly expanded, I didn't see the need to start another discussion. I apologize if this assumption was incorrect, but I thanked you for starting this discussion and I'm confident the result will be to keep the article this time. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I suppose this might be another case of me not knowing things. I'm new here, so that happens a lot. TheDracologist (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment: I suspect that and the editors who !voted to delete or merge in the AfD would be perturbed to see that the consensus reached there is being ignored and then challenged on the article talk page. I believe normally a closed AfD can only be challenged at WP:DRV. Not that anyone necessarily did anything wrong here, but this RfC should probably be withdrawn and a discussion should be started there. (I'm not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll put the discussion there, then. TheDracologist (talk) 23:03, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't figure out how to do most of the things required to list it. Can someone please list it? TheDracologist (talk) 23:05, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Pinging in case you wish to take any further action here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:24, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I think I figured it out. Can someone close this and direct people to the review discussion? TheDracologist (talk) 01:28, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I think an admin needs to close this discussion. If not closed soon, maybe consider asking for assistance here? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:32, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Requests_for_comment may be of some help. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:12, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Not_My_Presidents_Day


Listing for page creator TheDracologist

(talk) 00:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC) The creator of the article says that decision to merge was premature and the article has grown since then, but refuses to open a discussion, so I'm opening the deletion review on their behalf. Personally, I Endorse the original consensus to merge. TheDracologist (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Am I doing this right? I'm a little new here. TheDracologist (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Honestly?, I have no idea. I am not familiar with this process. I'm tired of trying to explain my actions on so many different pages, but I will just reiterate here that I strongly disagree with the merge vote and strongly vote to keep this article, which is very close to being nominated for Good article status. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:30, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you care to explain why you'd like to merge a near-complete article with 100+ reliable sources into an (arguably already too) long article, Protests against Donald Trump? User:Megalibrarygirl and I will be nominating this article for Good status very soon, so we're in this odd state of limbo re: merge vs. Good article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:35, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * This talk page section was a mistake. The actual discussion is at Deletion_review/Log/2017_March_24. TheDracologist (talk) 01:37, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I will move my comments there. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:38, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Deletion review/Log/2017 March 24. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:39, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

I have archived this page to keep discussion at Deletion review. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:41, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Archiving weblinks
, would you like me to check that the links are archived as we go forward with GA? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:32, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, though I don't think this is required to obtain Good status. Is there a tool that can scan the URLs in the article and archive appropriately, or is this an entirely manual process? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:34, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , I think it's a GA thing. I'm going through the review process with Woman's club movement and I was asked to archive my weblinks. I've been doing it by hand... it never occurred to me to look for a tool to do it automatically. I'll look into that, though, because it's a tedious process. :P Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:36, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm, ok. I can see how some editors might like archiving as part of the GA process. I've promoted over 75 articles but don't recall ever being required to archive all URLs in an article. I'll try to help as I can. Thanks for this! I am super excited to co-nominate this article soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:38, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , you are more experienced than me, then, with GA. This is my first article to send on my own to GA. I've done it with another user, but she did most of the ref work. ;) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:13, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, then, let's hold off on going through the entire article and see if the reviewer asks this of us. This task seems more appropriate for a Featured article nomination. I am comfortable nominating the article on our behalf as soon as Washington, D.C., and West Palm Beach are researched, and we make a call re: international activities. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:15, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

"Organization" "Preparation and planning" section
Do you plan on expanding this section? I'm not sure it's necessary since there is so little content, half of which is mentioned in the lead immediately above. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I planned on just starting it so that other editors could expand it. Also, if it is mentioned in the lead, it should be mentioned in the body. In general, it is discouraged to place citations in the lead, as it is, again, preferred that it be mentioned in the body (with a citation, of course). RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  21:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what else would be added to this section, though. With this in mind, what do you think should be done with this section and the lead? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Other things can be added. For example, see this. There is information there that could be added. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  21:38, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * What would you add from this source? Also, re: "Before some rallies, there was a poster-making session", isn't this true of most demonstrations? I'm not sure this detail should be included. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I actually just added a bit from it. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  21:56, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The poster-making thing might have to be removed, but I think that somebody who actually knows a thing or two about rallies (i.e. not me) should look into this. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  22:02, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I changed the section heading to "Preparation and planning" per the 2017 Women's March article. Does this work for you? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:03, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It works, although I think that organization may be better as it is shorter. Your call here. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  22:26, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * When I see "Organization", it makes me think there is an organization called "Not My Presidents Day". I'd be fine with just "preparations" or "planning", if length is a concern, but I prefer something other than "Organization". --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:30, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, that makes sense. In that case, keep it as is. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  22:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * 👍 --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Bringing you into this conversation, in case you have any thoughts on the "Organization" "Preparation and planning" section or can think of things to add based on the sourcing you've contributed to this article. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)