Talk:Not Now John

whiny japanese?
if this is just about the falklands war, why the line about the whiny japanese? also, if you watch the video for this song, it seems to be very japan-oriented. but what exactly is this whiny japanese? i'm confused....


 * the song is about a lot of things. he actually says "wily" japanese, and it's more or less a sarcastic remark (gotta compete with them because of their booming economy... and Waters doesn't like capitalism all that much)... albrozdude 07:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * In the album's opening there is another reference to Japan – on how they are taking over the ship-building industry from England. – Hattrem 06:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Influential to Rap Metal?
One part of this song seems to take influence from rap. Since it was released only two years after The Clash's "The Magnificent Seven", and is significantly heavier, could it be argued to be one of the first examples of Rap metal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albert Mond (talk • contribs) 14:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

The first example of rap metal and in fact the first rap song ever, was Aerosmith's Walk This Way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.166.249 (talk) 04:41, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Nah, Clash's Magnificent Seven is technically hip-hop, since it has a repeated backing track. And anyway, Floyd weren't a metal band, they were Prog at hardest, which, not taking into account Rush's development of the genre, kinda' makes them "Flog"!! Sheled (talk) 23:36, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Not Now John - versions
As I started translating the page I ran into something I could not understand. The infobox says that the albumversion of Not Now John is 5:02, but the single-section says the album version (which was put on the 12 inch single) is 4:56... Shouldn't these two lenghts align? If someone could explain this so I won't translate incorrectly I'd appreciate it! --Dooba (talk) 15:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe they faded the 12" single version 6 seconds earlier because the song cross-fades on the album with the next song, "Two Suns in the Sunset". Cross-fading and/or direct-segueing between songs is a typical Pink-Floyd trick on their albums. That--coupled with their tendency to do tightly-woven "concept albums" and long songs--is no doubt a reason there aren't too many Pink-Floyd singles. RobertGustafson (talk) 07:32, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

This is wrong, I think...
..."the seventh occurs in the outro: "Oi — where's the fucking bar, John?"—a lyric that's sung in four consecutive languages—the last time in English." This suggests that the profanity is present in all iterations of the question "Where's the bar?" doesn't it? But it's not. There's no profanity in the Italian, Greek or French questions. Ifnkovhg (talk) 21:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I fixed the wording of the sentence.RobertGustafson (talk) 07:27, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

What about the female singers?
Somebody should figure out and add the names of the female backing vocalists to the "Personnel" section. RobertGustafson (talk) 07:37, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

What other Pink Floyd songs contain profanity?
The first paragraph mentions that "It is one of the few Pink Floyd songs to contain profanity." Would be good perhaps to list the other few? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hydroxiridum (talk • contribs) 10:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * "Fuck" occurs in many Pink Floyd albums from _Dark Side_ ("I've been mad for fucking years ...") and _Animals_ ("You fucked up old hag" from "Pigs (Three Different Ones)" and I'm pretty sure it's _somewhere_ in _The Wall_, but damned if I can remember offhand.
 * Also in "Lost for Words" from The Division Bell "So I opened my door to my enemies / and asked 'Could we wipe the slate clean?' / But they tell me to please go and fuck myself, / you know you just can't win." -Crimson Bleeding Souls (talk) 06:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I see no problem with delving into a full list. I don't like it when people try to "tighten up" or "streamline" articles. This is an encyclopaedia, not _USA TODAY_. We're allowed to be thorough and specific and completist and boring!
 * --Ben Culture (talk) 06:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Not Now John authorship?
I've always believed, as this article states, that The Final Cut is all Roger Waters.

But Ultimate Classic Rock, in their list of "Top 10 David Gilmour Pink Floyd Songs" https://ultimateclassicrock.com/david-gilmour-pink-floyd-songs/ claims that Gilour co-wrote it.

Can anyone provide insight into UCR's claim? Bernhard Fabricius (talk) 09:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)