Talk:Not Your Kind of People/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: BenLinus1214 (talk · contribs) 16:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi there. I'll be reviewing this for GA. Sorry it sat here for so long. Give me a few hours to review. BenLinus 1214 talk 16:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Infobox
Comments
 * Sources on genre?
 * Should Stunvolume be capitalized? Even if its stylized that way, it's a bit disconcerting to the reader.
 * I'd forgotten about this GAN, thanks for reviewing it. Alternative is sourced in #Critical reception (The Bangkok Post, Time, Pitchfork sources), Electronic rock is sourced in #Critical reception (NME) and #Composition and style (KROQ-FM and MTV sources).
 * Stunvolume appears to be stylized that way by the band, however I've seen a couple of reliable sources that use standard capitalization. Changed it. Lapadite (talk) 08:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Lead

 * I'm not too thrilled with the social media sources here, even if they're from the band or members of the band. Also, are they really necessary per WP:LEADCITE.
 * Maybe some mentions of the other singles of the album? They appear in the infobox and are singles, yet "Automatic Systematic Habit", "Big Bright World", and "Control" are not mentioned in the lead at all. Some release dates or preliminary info would suffice, i.e. "The album also spawned three more singles, "Automatic Systematic Habit", "Big Bright World", and "Control", released on May 8, June 9, and October 9, 2012, respectively."
 * I've moved sources in the lead to the #Composition and style & #Release and promotion sections. Left the source citing the direct quotation. The social media sources (Facebook and Twitter) are used as primary sources, for "straightforward, descriptive statements of facts" without interpretation, such as self-release information, and credits also verified by liner notes.
 * Singles: I've added your suggestion without the dates, as I don't think they're notable for the lead, and they can be found in the infobox. Lapadite (talk) 08:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Background

 * Image that would be good here?
 * I can't finish this now, but the second two paragraphs in this section are much too long compared to the first. I'll cut them myself, but I would consider restructure this. BenLinus  1214 talk 16:25, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * On Butch Vig and Shirley Manson's side projects, the source doesn't really seem to cover the side projects you mention.
 * At the part cited to footnote 14, there's no end quote.
 * The double quotes in the middle of that paragraph are jarring, so I would put "Manson added" at the beginning of that second sentence.
 * The server for "thebeatjuice.com" is down right now, but why is that a reliable source?
 * I've not come across a relevant Background-related image that can be used.
 * I don't see the issue after the paragraph split?
 * Side projects: Removed the first irrelevant citation. The other two sources cite the sentence.
 * There's an end quote in the quotation cited by footnote 14.
 * Changed to "Manson added".
 * thebeatjiuce.com is BEAT magazine. I've not found a web archive of the interview. Lapadite (talk) 08:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Composition and style

 * Not really any major problems here (very informative and well-written), but maybe restructure this—you have some nice notes about specific songs as well as the general style of the album. I would put the general stuff up top followed by specific song notes in track order.
 * Also, image?
 * Rearranged, from general to song-specific, keeping each paragraph's focus.
 * Likewise, I've not come across a relevant image that can be used. Maybe,, , or has?
 * P.S. Images in every section isn’t a requirement for GAs. Lapadite (talk) 12:26, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I know that, and I'm not saying that it's a requirement. I'm just saying that it would be nice to have it in maybe one of these two sections. That's all. BenLinus  1214 talk 20:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Recording

 * Nothing here, but in the last sentence, there should be quotes around "Animal" and "The One".
 * Oops, done. Lapadite (talk) 09:05, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Release and promotion
Good.

World tour
That quote is a little bit of an odd cliffhanger. Either expand this section and elaborate or remove the quote.
 * Added a bit more information. Lapadite (talk) 09:57, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Critical reception

 * The first paragraph was way too long--I split it.
 * I don't like the phrase "the likes of"
 * , removed the phrase.

Commercial performance

 * Ref 80 is incomplete.
 * , ref 80 is in #Critical reception and appears complete? Lapadite (talk) 08:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I'm not sure what I was referring to anymore. There was a chart thing that didn't have a work listed, but it's better now. BenLinus  1214 talk 19:39, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Track listing

 * Why are the sample credits in this section?
 * Removed it.

In other media

 * I don't think this section makes sense for the album page. It seems a bit disconnected from the rest of the article and I don't think its necessary. The "Blood for Poppies" and "Control" parts are covered by their respective pages, and is the other one significant enough to warrant its own section, especially because it's about the title track and not the album?
 * Igordebraga changed it. An image was also added to #Background. Lapadite (talk) 09:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Clear this up, and I can pass. BenLinus 1214 talk 20:09, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Pass.
 * Thanks.