Talk:Not even wrong/Archives/2017

Utterly Bogus "Meaning" Supplied.
The anonymous writer claims, in the opening paragraph yet, "The phrase "not even wrong" describes any argument that purports to be scientific but fails at some fundamental level, usually in that it contains a terminal logical fallacy or it cannot be falsified by experiment (i.e., tested with the possibility of being rejected), or cannot be used to make predictions about the natural world." I think this is an utterly bogus invention with no basis in history, nor in the intentions of the several distinguished sayers of the saying, nor in post-Popper epistemology. None. It's just a flibberty-gibbet invention. The guy has the phoneme "false" roaming around in his head in different places, and he's decided to introduce them to each other. The saying "This is not right, it's not even wrong" is a humorous dismissal, the more cruel for being funny. That's all. David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 23:48, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * It seems to mean the meaning is already supplied elsewhere in the article: "Not even wrong" means "so confused that one could not tell whether it was nonsense or not."  Nonsense can't be "wrong" because it is contentless gibberish.  Obviously, the phrase is not specifically scientific.  The present definition is an invention--it's not original research, it's a mere fabrication.  Someone should delete it before it infects the minds of millions and BECOMES the meaning of the phrase.  God save is from Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 40.139.134.26 (talk) 21:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed. (I believe.) Staszek Lem (talk) 22:12, 18 July 2017 (UTC)