Talk:Nso people

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The NSO is an old society that continues to thrive on ancestral cultures. This work can be improved by looking at how the NSO society has evolved from post-colonial times, and how it made through colonial times. Finally, it will be worth looking at how the NSO is coping with modern times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbokoum1 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * To User:Mbokoum1 point this article would do well to include the following sections (please see below for suggested sections) to get a more comprehensive look at the Nso'

[Precolonial Era]
I believe it imperative to include this section in the article to show the breadth of Nso' civilization prior to European occupation. Within this section will be an overview of inheritance, governing ideologies, kinship and gender relations.

[Colonial Period]
It would serve the article well to have a brief mention and/or wikilink to the Berlin Conference, page to lay the foundation for European occupation of the Afrikan continent.

This section will serve to explain how the Highland Grasslands went from autonomous rule to German then British rule and how their presence changed gender relations, the implementation of indirect rule and how the introduction of money changed gender relations//division of labor.

The German Explorer Dr Eugen Zintgraff made the first European contact with the Bafut in April 1889. However, it is important to point out that indirect contact took place in the fifteenth century when the Portuguese arrived at the northern coast of present day Cameroon.

Account of the first contact between the Nso and the German leans heavily on information collected from elderly men of NSO, and some reports on the German side substantiating these a lot of these reports can be found at the National Archives in Yaounde. The first contact involved eight to ten Europeans of the expeditionary force of Lt Col Von Pavel in January 1901-1902.They marched from Babungo and on January 12 the camped at Sov where they received a gift of a ram from the Fon. It was noted by Lt Von Pavel that the first contact with the Nso people of Bansso was friendly. According to oral tradition it was suspected that the reason for later hostilities against the Nso by German forces is based on a long standing practice by the Nso warriors that involved keeping the skulls of their defeated war enemies as trophies. When the Germans were invited in the Nso manjong (warrior lodge), they saw many skulls hanging on rails and assumed that the Nso people were cannibals. It was archived that the hostilities began between October-March with the arrival of a new expedition that was well armed. It was reported that this new group severely beat a man and left him for dead, and also hit a lineage elderly with the butt of a gun. These aggressive actions prompted a retaliation by the Nso who attacked the expedition camp with about 1200 men. Having been warned of the planned attacked, they burnt down the palace and moved the camp. The early contact between Nso and the Europeans was marked by a succession of revolt and resistance that were ultimately all defeated by the Europeans and a new system of taxation and administration was imposed upon the people by the imperialists, first the Germans and then the British. The colonial tax system had undermined the Fon in his subchiefdoms. Tradionally, the subchiefdoms paid tribute directly to the fon, but with the new system they would collect taxes and keep a potion of the tax commission then turn it over to the Fon who collected it for the colonial administration. The Fon would also retain a commission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbokoum1 (talk • contribs) 18:02, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Modern Government
Following liberation in 1960, the francophone Cameroon joined with anglophone Cameroon to form their current republic. Seeing the fallacies and difficulties of the colonial state, the fledgling post-colonial government aimed to forge a new, self-reliant state centered around using the state itself as the main source of production On the surface it may appear the hybrid of parliamentary-style government and the traditional fonstructure was done to pay homage to the foundation upon which the current republic is forged, but it was done to implement a new type of indirect rule. While there are three classifications of chiefs each class serves as a function of the larger state and turning afon into clients. This keeps the local people happy by maintaining their traditional systems while at the same time undermining the fon by not giving him true autonomy. With the changing of legislation, any fon can be held in contempt or detained for failure to comply ibid 43./ref>. Iosaghae1 (talk) 12:41, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

[Gender Inequality]
Mbokoum1 (talk) 03:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

[Francophone Government // Postcolonial Government]
Following the departure of Europeans the Cameroonian-run government the newly implemented Francophone gov't instututed a hybrid government of sorts (national and local government honoring the traditional governmental structures). This needs to and will be detailed. Points for further research and discussion: gender subjugation and changed roles.

We also felt it imperative to include more cultural elements of the society (marriage, coming of age ceremonies, religion [and its structures], etc.) but most importantly we need to add an entire section on gender relations and the impact of capitalism on the way gender was viewed and acted out. --Iosaghae1 (talk) 03:56, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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I believe that the classification of Ngwerong and Ngiri as houses of parliament is incorrect. They serve no legislative function. Ngwerong is a regulatory society, i.e. the traditional police. Ngwerong does provide some checks and balances to the power of the king, having the right to summon the king and to lock him up. Young men who spend nine years as palace pages (Nchinda) are automatically members. Others are members due to hereditary rights or by invitation after paying a large "fee". Ngiri is a society of princes. The members have little direct power. They can not become members of Ngwerong (with the rare exception that a new king may bring someone with him when he is initiated into Ngwerong and this person is a member of Ngiri). In a brilliant division of powers, the king must be selected from the princes born while their father was king (i.e. from Ngiri) through a secret mechanism involving Ngwerong (whose members can not become the king).

Nso or Nso'?
in this article are called Nso'. Has anyone any more precise infos?--Dia^ (talk) 21:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Transliteration of the names of African peoples is not an exact science, so it's not surprising that different spellings are used. We should probably mention both alternatives in the article's first sentence. — Dulcem (talk) 22:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Capitalism's affect on the Nso
Make sure that your group explores the change of cultural values for the Nso in terms of capitalism and other western ideologies. Also explain the effects such changes have taken upon the Nso society.

Upon reading your article, it would be great to see how the Nso people are adapting to modern times. Overall the article was good Anene80 (talk) 03:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC)