Talk:Nuclear and radiation accidents and incidents/Archive 3

POV
So I come into this article talk page after attaching the POV tag and soon notice, that I'm far from being alone.

I see concern about gross mislabeling of submarine losses as "meltdowns" and concern about political paragraphs of quotations by Amory Lovins, who is? the self-styled expert on energy? Right. Then I go back to the article and notice he is not only still in the article but he's there with Stephanie Cooke, who gets herself a nice big quote where she says that a comparatively high safety history shouldn't really be important to us, what's important is...something else but human lives? Ok Cooke. Talk about unbalanced, unqualified and uninspired POV. In any case. Most people are visual, so we'll start there. In the intro we have a picture of Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Plant with a description on how it was off-line for 20 odd months after an earthquake in 2007, so I asked myself, what has this got to do with nuclear accidents or "incidents"? The IAEA inspected the station and said - "no visible significant damage has been found" although "nonsafety related structures, systems and components were affected by significant damage". Which I can translate for you, as I speak IAEAian: - things that are not important/"non-nuclear"/non-safety related things got broke, but everything else, all the important safety related stuff, was just fine. You still with me? Great. Yet a picture of the station and this unpreturbing earthquake is here in the intro to this nuclear article on accidents and incidents? huh? To what end? The conclusion one may come to is that this picture is there due to editor POV, as the only reference attached to this picture in the article is a pdf from the European Greens, a rabidly anti-nuclear political group.

Also in the intro we have this grand attempt at misdirection: ''Some technical measures to reduce the risk of accidents or to minimize the amount of radioactivity released to the environment have been adopted. Despite the use of such measures, human error remains, and "there have been many accidents with varying impacts as well near misses and incidents".[6][7] As of 2014, there have been more than 100 serious nuclear accidents and incidents from the use of nuclear power. Fifty-seven accidents have occurred since the Chernobyl disaster, ''

Do I have to even begin to point out the problem with this maligned and grossly misleading paragraph, or how the references lead to anti-nuclear organizations?

I think it probably best just to delete this POV piece as all the actual important data in the article was simply copy-pasted from decent articles like List of civilian radiation accidents etc.

P.S. The Windscale fire did not occur in "plutonium piles" as the article or the referenced Sovacool, laughably suggest. Boundarylayer (talk) 12:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I have dealt with these issues by wholesale removal of the clearly POV sections. They were basically unsalvageable in their current form. I also removed nuclear medicine from 'see also' since having it there has obvious POV implications. Jtrainor (talk) 17:16, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't think that was appropriate and I have restored the deleted section. Fix the POV, if need be, but nuclear accidents are qualitatively different than accidents at other energy producers. --Wtshymanski (talk) 22:56, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

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Simi Valley meltdown
Are you sure this Simi Valley meltdown did not occur two years later than what you presently state, on or about July 12, 1959? (I acknowledge, this date is not very well documented.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:47D6:2B00:EDFA:726A:A42E:83D4 (talk) 21:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

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Soviet Submarines
In the section on Nuclear Meltdowns there is a statement that eight Soviet submarines had meltdowns **or radiation accidents**. Could somebody go through and decide how many were meltdowns, and remove the others? DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:24, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Vandellòs I nuclear accident
In 1989 there was an accident in a Spanish power plant, Vandellòs_I_nuclear_accident. The accident was level 3 accident on the INES scale, and due to the accident the power plant had to be dismantled costing around $200 million (+ $250 million for the storing of nuclear waste until 2010), the cost of repairing and upgrading the facilities would have been to much to continue operation. Since the accident meets the criteria to be on the table of nuclear plants accidents I think that it should be included. Xaloc33 (talk) 23:27, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest adding it, as long as you have reliable reference sources to back it up. Netherzone (talk) 00:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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