Talk:Numa Numa (video)

Turn the Gary Brolsma section into its own page or delete it
It says in the peer review for this article’s good article nomination that it is too broad in it’s scope: it says too much about Gary Brolsma. I’m not very sure about how important Gary Brolsma is, so if he is important enough, and there are enough sources, I’d support turning the Gary Brolsma section back into its own page. But I don’t really think he justifies his own article, so I think deletion is the right call. 20:45, 4 May 2024

VfD
Page survived VfD at Votes for deletion/Numanuma (no consensus). Mikkalai 19:46, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Andy Milonakis
Why is there a See Also: Andy Milonakis? He is in no way related. PirateMonkey 20:28, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Andy Milonakis was discovered after he made a viral video called "The Superbowl is Gay." The video showed him strumming a guitar while saying various things were gay, including the two teams from the 2003 superbowl. He got a lot of alternative media attention and then got a show on MTV. So he was "internet famous" much like the rest of the see also folks. --JimDanger 13:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Merge proposal #1
hi people —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.140.58.98 (talk) 18:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Let us discuss whether the article should be merged into Dragostea Din Tei. Mikkalai 19:46, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I vote for merging, since the combined article will give a whole story. At the same time the size of the combined text will be still reasonably small for a single article. Mikkalai 19:46, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, a look at Dragostea Din Tei shows that anything worth keeping in here is infact already in there.. I don't understand how this survived the VfD, to be honest. I can probably undergo expansion and probably required clean-up on Dragostea Din Tei if required.Hedley 21:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * >>I don't understand how this survived the VfD, to be honest.


 * Are you being serious? Do you have any idea how big Numa Numa has become?  Moncrief 00:52, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

Additionally, this page should be merged with the Numa Numa Dance page. This is the first time I've found a page that needs merging, so I'm not sure exactly how to combine them. Any suggestions? --Vishahu 00:32, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

Now that there are two numamuma articles to be merged, differing in content, I no longer feel like merging into Dragostea Din Tei. Mikkalai 00:49, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Having seen that second article i'd be surprised if these articles weren't written by 'Gary Brolsma' himself. After all, who else would know so much about him. I still think the whole lot needs deleting because its already in Dragostea Din Tei. Numanuma doesn't need its own page or else i'd mayswell add a load of other pages about internet 'parodies'. .Hedley 20:30, 01 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * A criterion of inclusion is notability. Numa Numa is definitely above the threshold. Yes, there are zillions of internet parodies, just as there are zillions of songs and other works of art, but not all of them generate newspaper articles.


 * It is up to psychologists to discuss what's so special in this thing. There are numerous factors in numanuma that strike one's nerve.
 * foreign language
 * "average guy"
 * contrast between sweet voice and... er... "big"... guy, a kind of oxymoron effect.
 * the guy is genuinely having fun, and this is "contagious"
 * the guy does not go over the board in the parody and hence doesn't make it disgusting
 * the song itself is a typical seasonal hit, and it may well catch your ear, if you didn't hear it before
 * Mikkalai 21:09, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This article definitely should NOT, in my opinion, be merged with the article about the Romanian song. The "Numa Numa" Internet phenomenon is clearly not the same thing as the original Romanian song - and so they should have separate articles. Moncrief 00:44, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe a bit late but just for the record I can assure you that the orignal Gary Brolsma page was not created by Gary Brolsma. I created it after seeing a feature on MSNBC's "Countdown" but mistakenly made an article under "Gary Broma" thanks to a bad transcript of the show. Once I realized my mistake, I created the article for Gary Brolsma and redirected Gary Broma to that. As for the level of detail towards Mr. Brolsma, I dunno. Maybe he contributed to the page himself. IKato 06:40, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Following the changes to this article, changes to Dragostea Din Tei and backup of this item's popularity, i'm now for keeping this article as well. Hedley 14:54, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Merge proposal #2
Important note: Those that have not made their voice known at Talk: Dragostea Din Tei, should do so. That appears to be where the main discussion on this recent (second so far) merge proposal is taking place. I have also taken the liberty of combining the three sections on merging on this talk page into one section with subsection, as it has already proven to be confusing. --C S (Talk) 11:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I vote no merge. This is its own phenomenon. --Dustin Asby 18:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The Numa Numa page should ideed be kept separate from the Dragostea Din Tei page for one major reason; "Numa Numa" is the name of the dance Gary Brolsma performed, not the name of the song, and as such should be kept seperate for purposes related to this.

This does mean that information regarding the actual song "Dragostea Din Tei" by The O-Zone / Haiducii should be kept to a minimum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.156.102 (talk • contribs)


 * No Merge Numa Numa is an internet phenomena distinct from the original song. The song happens to be part of Numa Numa but they are different things.  I'm not a huge fan of including internet memes on wikipedia but this is an obvious case. MLA 10:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's a bad idea to do a merger; I think "Numa numa" is notable enough on its own for an article. Andy Saund e rs 12:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Main discussion is taking place at the Talk:Dragostea din tei page. Exploding Boy 18:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, after looking at all the responses on both talk pages thus far (since tag was placed on May 10th), it seems that besides the proposer, nobody has voiced the slightest support for a merge. And it's certainly been long enough, so I'm going to remove the merge tag. --C S (Talk) 11:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Including a link to O-Zone's video
I'm not sure, but isn't it illegal? Unless O-Zone gave permission for their video to be released onto the internet, then thats a link to copyrighted material. Linking to the video is the same as linking to an MP3, really. Hedley 13:50, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Under fair use legislation in the U.S. it should be OK. Firstly, it's not for commercial purposes and does NOT take away the original artists ability to make money out of their work (in fact, they appear to have made more money because of it), it is a transformative work (changed by the fact that it was on a webcam and nobody really knows anything about it), it was originally a private work that "leaked" onto the Internet, it was a not-for-profit creation and lastly it has strong aspects of parody in the clip itself. I think it's safe to say that Gary will be OK. - 203.35.154.254 00:31, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the stream of the original O-Zone video which is linked to. There is no doubt that Brolsma's work is legal, but i'm unsure on linking to a third party .avi of the Dragostea Din Tei music video. Hedley 21:30, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Unknown guy in Maria.avi
I don't understand why noone knows the guy in the mentioned clip "Maria.avi". It's DJ Rotti from http://www.djrotterdam.info/. The video can be found in the section "Videos" there. Dragostea Din Tei was not the first record he smashed.. --217.238.120.242 17:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) (not registered yet, but soon..)


 * And the article says Gary is not the first to release a lip-synching vid, then gives an example. But that man (is that DJ Rotterdam?) is clearly (and badly) singing along.


 * I thought his name was "DJ FRIKI"? Regardless, I think DJ Rotti (?) was the first person to make this popular.  Coinsidently, if this "Maria.avi" video is the one from Stupid Videos, you're welcome.  I forget where I found the dude initially, but the Stupid Videos dude (before they became a "crew") was nice enough to put it up, albeit shortened.  ~ Joseph Collins (U)(T)(C) 02:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

what the hell
How is a city in Jersey a NYC suburb?

---

Basically all of the cities in northeastern New Jersey are considered suburbs of New York City, along with the cities of Westchester and Long Island, NY. Besides, Saddle Brook isn't that big of a town to begin with... - Pkmatrix

Which site to link to for the video
Should we continue to link to the Newgrounds video, or should we change the link to go to fatkidsong.com? Fatkidsong.com got added as a link in Dragostea Din Tei earlier today and seems to just be the video, with no jargon apart from a few text links to stuff about Brolsma underneath. Maybe its better to link there as it is probably dedicated? Hedley 23:08, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Article Title
Why is the second "numa" not capitalized? Shouldn't all the words of an article be in caps (except for prepositions, simple words, articles, etc.)? For this reason, I say we move this article to "Numa Numa." I know it may sound like nit-picking, but it just doesn't make sense to me why the second "numa" wasn't capitalized in the first place. Kakashi-sensei 19:25, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Quite right, I'd say24.11.11.247

Picasso
"...a LEGO representation of Picasso during the singer's words: "sunt eu Picasso" ("it's me, Picasso")."

Um, I watched the Numa Numa video, and 1. that image doesn't appear on the line "sunt eu Picasso," it appears later. 2. That LEGO guy isn't Pablo Picasso. It's Bob Ross.

How is Chicken Little Trailer a Parody of Numa Numa?
I mean, all it has in it is a remix of Dragostea Din Tei and Chicken Little dancing.Does that at all count as a parody even of it's to promote a movie?

Think of it this way: Was it likely that they would have used the same song if it weren't for Numa Numa's popularity? Besides, is that really an official trailer? Because I remember Chicken little dancing to another song... I have the feeling it's a dubbed, unofficial trailer.

It's real, I remember seeing it and thinking "Wait, I know that song."

It's on the Disney website (http://www.disney.it/Film/movies/chickenlittle/chickenlittle.mov) and the first move Chicken Little does (waving his arms around in front of his face) is totally a move Gary does in his numa numa video. But every other dance move is totally different.

Huh?
"American Idle" ? Isn't it "Idol" ??

Also why is this here: "If anyone knows where to get the HiQ version that was on Gary's website I would be much obliged. (digg.com)"

Well, yeah, its a pun. Idle as in lazy, unmoving, ect.

German?
is the song in German?Tan Ding Xiang 陈鼎翔 02:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Nope, Romanian. GeeJo (t) (c) &bull; 29-July-2024  (UTC)
 * To be precise, Moldovan, a language that shares a very distinctive similarity with Romanian. Slivestré ¦ Pfrt ¦ PAve ¦ Dcn ¦ Cntn ¦ Ei ¦ 04:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * "Distinctive similarity"? I'd say there's a bit more likeness than that! Moldova was during part of its history a part of Romania, and the language is practically identical to that spoken in Romania (which still shares a border with it) - no more different, I'd say, than American and British dialects of English are. Heck, I doubt there's any more difference between Moldovan and Romanian than there is between Standard Romanian and the "country bumpkin" Transylvanian dialect of Romanian, and that one mixes considerable Hungarian influences. From what I can tell, they're referred to as seperate "languages" for purely cultural reasons, and are more like dialects than truly distinct languages.


 * As if to illustrate this, O-Zone is Moldovan, the single was released in Romania, and is released on venders such as iTunes in the U.S. in its original form labeled as "Romanian version". They're close enough to say they have more than "a very distinctive similarity".

Runa27 20:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Distinct similarity ? LOL, Moldovan and Romanian are the same language, there is absolutely no word (except for regionalisms) that you find in one and not in the other. The distinction was made by bolsheviks who took control over Moldova (better said Basarabia) and tried to make the people there forget their language and history and fall under Moscow's control....which they kind of did...Qubix89.44.243.118 (talk) 18:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism?
I found these bits within the article: "A more popular site is albinoblacksheep.com where also can b found the animation forehead shavecut, a heart renching story of many characters not so closly linked in meaning and signifigance...The numa numa dance was later perfected in 2005 by Devi Ghosh and Sam Johnson. They are credited with bringing the song to their homcoming popularizing it to the student body."

I consider the first sentence out of place (although I know the video was likely on albinoblacksheep) and the second to have no supporting evidence, so I have removed both.

Napoleon Dynamite dance scene
I took out the comment about the final dance scene in the movie Napoleon Dynamite using Numa Numa as the background song, implying that the scene is a parody/homage to the video, as it's simply incorrect. There is a video floating around the Internet (including the Gary Bolsma fan site) of the dance scene with Numa Numa dubbed over, but it's not the song that appears in the film. Furthermore, I just noticed...the comment said that Napoleon Dynamite is a 2005 film, which it's not. It was released in the summer of 2004...about 6 months before the Numa Numa video appeared. - "I Don't Have an Account Yet" poster, December 11th, 2005.


 * Also, it is revealed in the DVD commentary for Napoleon Dynamite that the dance scene was comprised of random moves edited together, so Napoleon was not dancing to any one song the entire time. DrKC9N 04:08, 11 December 2005 (UTC)


 * What I meant was that the song in the actual film scene isn't even Numa Numa. I'm not sure if you were just adding trivia or didn't understand what I was saying.


 * I was just adding trivia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.16.102.152 (talk) 04:27, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Talent Show/Numa Numa Relived
I looked up the "Talent Show" stage Numa Numa dance on Newgrounds, it's actually titled "Numa Numa Relived", so I changed that. - "Same No Account Guy Who Did the Napoleon Dynamite Change" - December 11th, 2005

Chinese Version(Remixed) 郭美美-不怕 This gal used the numa numa dance tune and added chinese lyrics to it....the song is about her fear of crockoaches

Chinese cover?
I'm not sure of the artiste's name or the song's name, but in Singapore there have been ads running with a music video of a Mandarin cover of "Dragostea din Tei". The artiste is a female solo, and as far as I can tell the lyrics don't have anything to do with the original song, except for the "maia hi, maia hu" bits.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ketsugi (talk • contribs) 12:12, January 31, 2006

I never listen to Chinese music here in Singapore, but I am sure if its out here, I should be able to pick up the catchy tune from those radios blasting off. However, nope, did not encounter yet. Slivestré ¦ Pfrt ¦ PAve ¦ Dcn ¦ Cntn ¦ Ei ¦ 23:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * See the Dragostea din Tei article. It's "不怕不怕", a cover by Jocie Kok. &mdash;Lowellian (reply) 11:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Red vs Blue?
I can't find the Red vs Blue parody of it. Where can I find it?--Martin925 04:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

when first published?
Was it this version on google: It's dated Feb 2, 2004 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.77.242 (talk • contribs) 22:17 14 March 2006 (UTC)

What the ... ?
"On February 32, 2956, eight students from the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada released..."

That is blatant vandalism, any one have the correct date on this?--Dp462090  |  Talk  |  Contrib  |  21:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Exploding Boy 21:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Cosplay video
Could whoever keeps inserting this link please stop. The video is of such poor quality that it is completely useless. You can barely see the people, and you can hardly even hear the song. Linking it from here serves no purpose (except, perhaps, vanity). There are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of numa numa videos online; we don't need to link them all from this article. Exploding Boy 18:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * On the contrary: rated four stars on YouTube, 8,357 views so far. -- Mike Abundo 9:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

It may be rated 4 stars on YouTube (out of only 20 votes, it should be noted), but the video is still awful, you can barely see the people, and the sound is so bad you can't even tell it's Dragostea din Tei. It's just not a representative example. Are you in it or something? Exploding Boy 02:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'm not. Twenty opinions count more than one. -- Mike Abundo 5:02, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but you're going to have to do better than that. 20 opinions on YouTube means nothing when it comes to including something in an article on Wikipedia. Please explain exactly why you think this video should be linked from the article, giving specific reasons why you think it adds anything of value to the article, or I'm removing it. Exploding Boy 06:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It's been three days and you've chosen not to respond, so I'm removing the link. Please do not replace it.  Just because you are into cosplay doesn't make that link worthwile.  Wikipedia is not a link farm.  Exploding Boy 01:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't have to answer your argumentum ad hominem, Exploding Boy. The video's popularity -- it's been spread on several forums -- speaks for itself. -- Mike Abundo 2:25, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've never heard of it, and I'm a big fan of Dragostea Din tei. 24.9.121.137 23:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

argumentum ad hominem? Nonsense. I gave specific reasons why it shouldn't be listed, and you've not responded to any of them. In addition, it appears that this video is from your own website, which explains why you're so eager to keep this link in the article. If you revert again I will start an Request for Comment. Exploding Boy 02:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * "Are you in it or something"? "Just because you are into cosplay"? Sounds like argumentum ad hominem to me, Exploding Boy. -- Mike Abundo 2:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)\

Please see Requests for comment/Mikeabundo. Exploding Boy 02:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I can't get the link to work. Can someone check if it works for him/her? Anyway, if the video is as low quality as Exploding Boy says, I don't see why it merits inclusion in Wikipedia. The only exception I can think of is if it was so popular, a phenomenon, etc., but I really don't think being rated highly out of 20 votes on YouTube indicates a significant level of popularity. --C S (Talk) 03:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Selected amateur versions
Hi -- I've removed most of the "selected amateur versions" from the page. I left the Newgrounds page, which has links to lots of alternatives, and also the Japanese and Hebrew versions, as they seem the most relevant of the remaining ones. I have a bit of a distaste for this part of the list: is there any basis for what is included and what isn't? Seems like the Brolsma version is worth having, and perhaps the Japanese version (perhaps this is the one he was inspired by?) but it seems like including any others is a slippery slope: we don't get to decide what's "cool" here on WP. Mangojuice 20:33, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

English-language lyrics
>remove "English version" section. This article is not about the song per se, but rather about the internet phenomenon.) [From the History section of this page.]
 * True -- I added them to the page on the actual song instead. Banaticus 06:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Brolsma's Video needs editing for re-synchronization - anyone?
I am a great fan of Brolsma's Numa Numa, but there is an obvious problem with all versions I have seen, which is the major loss of synchronization in the last third of the video.

I don't know whether this was a problem with the original version, or some kind of corruption which crept in during reproduction.

I am amazed that this problem is not more frequently commented on (in fact I have never seen it commented on), but it pretty much destroys the effect, since perfection of the synch. is just as critical as the wit of Brolsma's moves.

Could anyone with video technology editing expertise prepare a version which restores the proper synchronization to the later part? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.158.226 (talk • contribs) 08:38 13 May 2006 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoCeT1_XZu4User:82.6.169.187 21:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear User 82.6.169.172 - the 'youtube' link is frustrating :- there is a reasonable re-synchronization at the end, but preceded by intrusive images cut into the Brolsma video which are badly timed, cover-over some of the neatest moves, disrupt the timing and generally destroy the humour of the original. Maybe someone has re-synchronized without this kind of additional material?

Notability of versions
Regarding this addition; While the OC Register qualifies as a reliable source, the article does not mention the Numa Numa video, only the creator of it. There is still no evidence that the version cited is notable outside of a high school arts department.  OhNo itsJamie Talk 18:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Personal info/ID theft
I see no reason why personal info (e.g. SS#, DOB, home address) needs to be displayed when it does not contribute to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.48.20 (talk • contribs) 06:39 23 June 2006 (UTC)

DOWNLOAD NEEDED
Excuse me, could NE1 get me a download of JUST THE MUSIC, MAYBE IN WAV FILE? No website where you have to sign up, it has to be free, and I'd like it to be full, you know, without the looping stuff in the original? Thanks! -- Homfrog Tell me a story! Contribulations 23:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If you stop typing in netspeak, use full English words and lose the caps (that's shouting) and use wikipedia email to email me, yes, I can send the MP3. — Natha  n  ( talk ) / 06:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Gary should have his own article
I did a google test on "Gary Brolsma" with "-numa" added; and it generated about 20% of the google hits overall for just having his name in there. --24.208.241.169 01:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I actually agree with this. Numa Numa refers to Brolsma in my opinion, I doubt the notability of the rest of the phenomenon.  MLA 06:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I third this suggestion, the song reached its worldwide noteriety from Brolsma's video. --Airwaves45 07:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, especially since he is apperently putting out new videos now and such. Rabbethan 16:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I have recreated Gary Brolsma. Tyrenius 09:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Tauren WoW Dance
"In the popular Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) World of Warcraft, the Tauren character's dance is a replication of the Numa Numa dance."

This is untrue, the original Tauren Male dance (it has since been modified) was a reference to the Peanut Butter Jelly Time banana. The 'new' dance only added new footwork, which would definitely not be in reference to Gary. The Tauren Female dance is the Electric Slide. It has been deleted! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.16.149.209 (talk • contribs) 14:46 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually the male Tauren dance is based off of "It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time!" not Numa Numa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.206.20.35 (talk) 15:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Number of downloads
There has been some possible vandalism going on with regards to the number of downloads of Gray Brolsma's Numa Numa video. For a long time it was 1 million, but then it was changed by to 13 million. I've reverted and put in "". Does anyone have any sources? --Swift 03:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/206373 Thats the original and if you look it says "13,397,565 views" on the left side (as of this posting). Airwaves45 05:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Numa Numa Project
The article Numa Numa Project was proded and prod2ed. Rather than see it disappear, I would rather see it merged into this. Comments? --Roninbk t c # 23:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It was in this article and it got deleted. I don't know why. Nothing to stop you copying the content to here and using Numa Numa Project as a redirect (to preserve edit history). Say what you've done on talk pages and in edit summaries.

Tyrenius 00:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Done and done --Roninbk t c # 03:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

New Numa
Shouldn't the New Numa video be included on this page? After all, even if it's not technically to Dragostea, it's still a Numa thing, by Gary himself, no less. -Zero.exe

YouTube
YouTube This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 15:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Can someone rephrase this sentence?
In September 2006, a New Numa video was made with this time, the video being more professional.

To me it just doesnt sound smooth, and perhaps needs to be rephrased slightly. Coradon 16:56, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect Naming
Uh what the hell it's Noma Numa. Ringwall 21:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Where Numa Numa Kid is from
i just wanted to add to the article, but I'm not quite sure how to do it... A friend of mine from my local area apparently graduated with this kid, he happens to be from Saddle Brook, NJ (07663)

67.80.171.219Jim ([mailto:jhw549@optonline.net jhw549@optonline.net])

International Parodies
In South Korea there is a popular comedy show on TV with a segment called Nuna Nuna (nuna means sister) and it uses Numa Numa. Would this quailfy as a parody? or an example of Numa Numa's widespread influnence? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqujKYpl5KI (You have to wait 15 seconds into the video to see the song. The show follows a pattern of: Intro, Numa, Joke + Punchline, Numa, Joke + Punchline, Numa, etc.)) (ChloeSong 22:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC))

As of Jan. 28/08, that video's removed. Thx for the idea, though. FunGuy222 (talk) 03:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Any ideas for better sources?
Concerning this sentence:


 * "The phrase "Numa Numa" is from the chorus, "nu mă, nu mă iei", of "Dragostea din tei". It can be approximately translated as "you don't, you don't take me [with you]"."

I wish we could find a different source. The current one given does not appear to be reliable. (If it is and I am unaware, I apologize.) Any ideas, or sources? :-) --Iamunknown 06:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

What country is O-Zone really from then..?
Lol, in the article about the guy (Gary something) it says O-Zone is moldovian. In this article (Numa Numa) it says romanian.. I'm confused :(

-Sign Peter Heiberg (NOR), too lazy to make an account :P CHIVAS #1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.233.140.9 (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is a Moldavian group, but the chief language spoken in Moldova is Romanian. -134.50.75.7 (talk) 05:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted current info on Brolsma
This article isn't on Broslma, although he did start the Numa Numa phenomenon. Information about his current status isn't appropriate here, so I deleted it. His personal wikipedia page Gary Brolsma is much more appropriate for that sort of thing. Saying that he may POTENTIALLY (they haven't raised the money & honestly, probably aren't going to) be in a Super Bowl ad will only be relevant if he does his Numa Numa act in said ad. The same goes for his musical CD he released. It's just not relevant to the page itself. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)Tokyogirl79

Numa Numa
Hi, some foks would like to eliminate the article in portugues. Can any one help us inprove the article. My bigest problem is to put picture.Numa Numa. Regards.Mvdiogo (talk) 12:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Gary, the numa numa guy
TWO THINGS: do we/should we have an article for the dude specially and not his video he said it was first uploaded to youtube "for a few friends" then "got out of control." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathsculler (talk • contribs) 07:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * IMO he's not notable outside of this song, so no. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * His article is linked from this one. Dawnseeker2000   18:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Music Video
Should we mention the wheezer music video for pork and beans that features Gary doing the numa dance?74.197.74.11 (talk) 12:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Nanach Song
I just caught on this song is the original of the famous Nanach song. This song is very popular in Israel, because of the Breslover Chassidim Saxophonemn (talk) 16:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

"copycat"?
"This video has been viewed over 700 million times on YouTube (from many different 'copycat' videos, though the official video received approximately 40 million views)."

"Mirrored," maybe? "Copycat" gives the impression of other people acting like Gary Brolsma in their own videos, but this clearly is not what is meant. 184.7.167.28 (talk) 06:14, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Merge proposal #3
I propose that this article should be merged into Dragostea din tei, as I feel it would work better as a section within the song's article itself. This would be similar (for example) to the viral video/parody section on the Beyonce 'Single Ladies' article, concerning a similar video. It is pretty obvious now in 2012 that this 'internet phenomenon' has not had lasting impact or sustained notability. --SUFC Boy 13:07, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It is pretty obvious now that this stupidity was notable much longer than "single ladies". As for impact, after it the number of singing morons on youtube exploded. but nobody did research on this. Wikipedia is not paper. Also, the comparison with "single ladies" case is incorrect. Brolsma was not a parody. He had no intention for glory. It was an internet accident ...er... " internet phenomenon". In contrast, it is pop singer's job to make splash. And it is a good bet that Brolsma was way more popular than the original after it hit the fan. Staszek Lem (talk) 02:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. On the other hand, "Gary Brolsma" would be a better target for merge, since this is basically a single-event guy, and all his subsequent efforts in showbiz are pitiful. Staszek Lem (talk) 02:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. You've made a very good point. Gonna go with merge proposal number #4 then. --SUFC Boy 06:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Merge proposal #4
After Staszek Lem's comments above, I propose that this article be merged into Gary Brolsma. I realise I probably won't be popular making two merge proposals in two days, but I really don't think this article is of a good enough standard, length or notability in 2012 to work on its own.--SUFC Boy 07:09, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Staszek Lem (talk) 15:21, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Grammarxxx (What'd I do this time?) 23:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: no consensus Tiggerjay (talk) 07:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC) Tiggerjay (talk) 07:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Numa Numa (Video) → Numa Numa – I respect Ego White Tray, but I disagree with this undiscussed move. A reader typing in "Numa Numa" is just as likely looking for the viral video than the original song, though I concede it would be very difficult to ascertain this either way. So why not have two naturally titled articles without qualifiers? Even though each article will be linked in the body of the other, I think hatnotes are still appropriate. --Relisted Tyrol5   [Talk]  02:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC) --BDD (talk) 22:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't move The reason I did this is because most people after seeing the video are likely thinking "what is that song" and not "what is that video" and thus Dragostea din tei is primary topic for Numa Numa. Ego White Tray (talk) 04:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose – there is already an article at the suggested move target.  Dicklyon (talk) 19:22, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Pardon? At Numa Numa? That currently redirects to Dragostea din tei. --BDD (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, my mistake, it's a redirect there. So it's a primarytopic issue.  I think I agree with Ego White Tray above about that, so still oppose the move.  Dicklyon (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment the current title just doesn't work, so even if it isn't moved to the base name, it should be renamed to something else, such as Numa Numa (internet culture). This article isn't about a video, it's about internet culture. -- 70.24.248.246 (talk) 21:38, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure it's about a video, and the reactions to it. The video is part of internet culture, but that name suggests it is a culture, i.e. a subculture. That's just not accurate --BDD (talk) 21:43, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is a phenomenon based on many videos, according to our article, not a single video, so internet culture is the appropriate disambiguator. -- 70.24.248.246 (talk) 23:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: in any case, "video" is not a proper noun, and so should not be capitalized, if it stays. HandsomeFella (talk) 09:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Contrarian support, because natural disambiguation is much preferred over parenthetical disambiguation and the video is known as numa numa. Of course we should have hatnotes &c. bobrayner (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support; Numa Numa is the video, Dragostea din tei is the song. The twain needn't meet, per WP:TWODABS.  Powers T 22:47, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * it is unbelievable to me that this does not fall under a pre-existing rule, it's not like "parody" and other derived works, or internet phenomena and other fads are anything new or unusual. it does not particularly matter how this is handled as much as all such are handled consistently; all of your opinions are, to me, valid, except the opinions that there is something special about this case or that the general rule should have a grey area wide enough to encompass this case. this kind of stuff btw is the sort of stuff that drives many potential wikipedians away. the people who are not deterred are the people with an incredible tolerance for kibitzing/nattering/quibbling, etc. but that is turning wikipedia into an adversely selected lemon market. On the question of how to handle this in general, I would favor solutions that satisfy different types of users, those that are driven by pop culture lust, and "librarians" and "taxonomic catalogians" who wish to see order. Those are entry points, so have entry points that satisfy a large number of requests. nothing is worse than the wikipedia tendency toward huge beautifully cited articles with ledes that don't answer basic questions 68.174.97.122 (talk) 19:50, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You've lost me. What do you think is the best solution here? --BDD (talk) 21:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the wikipedia tendency to discuss these issues in isolation from one another (with random and sporadic input from people who may recall other such issues) is not the right way to get to the right answer. Wikipedia is on the internet and so are internet fads based on mashups and repurposings of creative materials, large numbers of people will always come to wikipedia looking for information, so come up with a policy that works, where "works" means that the next time it comes up there won't be a need for a discussion. If individuals feel the need to discuss, great, but they should go to the singular place where the last discussion took place and take it up from there. 68.174.97.122 (talk) 16:10, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose. "Numa Numa" is much more attributable to the song, which has those word as the lyrics that got stuck in everyone's head, rather than the internet phenomenon the song sprung. Trinitresque (talk) 02:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
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Merge proposal #5
I'm going to suggest merging the contents of Gary Brolsma article into this page. It seems that from reading his bio, he is not known for much else outside of the numa numa phenomenon and it's more relevant if all of his info was on this page. At one time his bio info redirected here but I think it should be redirected here permanently and merged. --Turn685 (talk) 07:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy merge, I don't think this requires a vote,, as someone recreated the Gary Brolsma page despite the result of last year's vote and without consulting anyone. All the content from that page is present on here anyway. If someone wants the Brolsma article created again then they should propose it on this talk page. -- Half past  formerly SUFCboy   14:28, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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How is this notable?
This appears to be a funny meme from eons ago with no lasting impact, and with limited sourcing. I am minded to send it to be deleted, but I am open to suggestions. Prince of Thieves (talk) 16:19, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I think people who have no appreciation for internet culture and the preservation of its history should keep their opinions to themselves, but I am open to suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:12:6DA0:5100:4050:EFF6:5AF6:62E1 (talk) 11:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Why did Newgrounds take the videos down?
The article mentions this with regard to multiple videos, but does not say why the videos were taken down. Equinox ◑ 15:27, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah, this discussion suggests it was because of copyright issues around the music track . If so, we should probably mention it in the article. Equinox ◑ 15:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Note that forum posts are not reliable (WP:USERG), especially when the second post in it follows onto a personal attack / insult. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 15:33, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, I never add info to articles because it always gets deleted for one reason or another. I just do grammar fixes and sometimes offer suggestions on talk pages. Equinox ◑ 16:53, 26 June 2018 (UTC)