Talk:Number Six (Battlestar Galactica)/Archive 1

Shore Leave 27
I recently interpreted for Tricia Helfer during the Shore Leave 27 convention in Baltimore. She has said there will be big changes coming for Number Six - be ready to edit this article, folks! -Etoile 00:35, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

novellization?
A 2006 novelisation was published in 2005? - Zarboki 12:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

"She has vastly helped humans by pointing out a Cylon bomb to Baltar on Galactica and helped him build a cylon detector" - When does she point out a cylon bomb to Baltar? During the miniseries, she helps point out a cylon device, but it is not a bomb (it's a transponder later used in the Starbuck's cylon raider and by Boomer when she plants a nuclear bomb on base ship). Secondly, never have I gotten the impression she helped Baltar build the cylon detector, when was this revealed? - joeytsai 21:41 25 Jan 2006 (est)

"Whenever any given copy of Six meets a human being for the first time, she will always ask 'Are you alive?'" - Again, I do not recall this fact. When Starbuck returns to Caprica, I believe Six begins the fight with something like, "Do you like what we've done with the place?" Also, I don't recall Gina ever saying the phrase to Baltar. - joeytsai 21:46 25 Jan 2006 (est)

biblical parallels
It seems many BSG characters have Biblical parallels. Is this Number Six's? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramiel  ... the sixth fallen angel in the Book of Enoch. Inviere (sic) means resurrection in Romanian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.125.93.252 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * What I think is interesting is the choice of the name "Inviere" for the Pegasus six. This, combined with Cain's flashback to the disappearance of her sister makes me wonder if Six wasn't based on her sister. Hence the name Inviere, or "resurrection". A hint to suggest that Gina Inviere is Cain's sister "reborn". I suppose I should also point out there is no book of Enoch in the Christian Bible.Bwanderson (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Revision
I think at this point a complete revision of this article is needed. After two seasons of the show, the different Number Sixs that have interacted with Baltar and others (Baltar's #6s in particular) have tended to show different personality traits. The way the current article is presented, it reads like the different Number Sixs are all monolithic and representative of one personality. --Sephiroth9611 03:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Split off Number Six (Gaius Baltar)
would probably go along with a Gaius Baltar (Number Six) or Gaius Baltar (Caprica Six), see Talk:Gaius Baltar

Split off Number Six (Battlestar Galactica)
Shelley Godfrey would be part of this article, and all other Sixes

Discussion
Comment I think the names need work. I don't have any suggestions yet. CovenantD 07:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Per WP:TV, minor characters should not get their own articles, and Gina and Shelley Godfrey are extremely minor characters. If the article is written such that it appears that all versions of Number Six are too similar, the article should be revised. Maybe a heading for "Versions" of Six, with a subheading for each distinct one, would work. I agree that Baltar's Number Six is unique, but right now, I think it's best to keep them all together. And I have no idea what "Gaius Baltar (Number Six)" would represent. -- Fru1tbat 12:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Whereas Baltar experiences hallucinations of Number Six, the Number Six who had seduced him (Caprica-Six) experiences similiar hallucinations of him (though, her hallucination has appeared in only one episode to date).--DrBat 23:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've moved the content around a little (well, a lot, really) and added the subheadings I proposed above. See how you like it. Given the size of the sections for the various incarnations, I don't think splitting the article would be of any benefit, and the offshoots would probably fail Notability tests... Oppose -- Fru1tbat 15:15, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice. I think that's a very good solution for now. CovenantD 01:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Red spine blip from the mini-series?
For anyone who didn't see the mini, Number Six is shown with a big red glowing sensor running down her spine, indicating (to the viewer) that she's a cylon. I know that Ronald D. Moore more or less retconned this out of the show, as it creates a pretty catastrophic plot-hole, but I'm wondering if there is enough relavence to this detail to include it somewhere in this article. Opinions? --Brian Kurtz 14:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't think it needs to be included. Like you said, it was quickly abandoned, and considering it doesn't give any additional relevant information about the character, it's probably not worth it. And am I remembering incorrectly, or did Sharon's back do the same thing in her sex scene with Helo on Caprica? It's been a while since I've seen it. If so, maybe the information belongs in a general discussion of humanoid Cylons elsewhere, with a note indicating it's now apocryphal or whatever. -- Fru1tbat 15:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup. Sharon's back did the exact same thing. It happened in Six Degrees of Separation (Battlestar Galactica).
 * --Brian Kurtz 01:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the novelization proposed that that was gamma radiation, and hence visible only to the viewer.

Pictures
Would it be a good idea to upload pictures of each "notable" Six copy? Caprica Six, Head Six, Gina, and Shelly Godfrey do look and dress quite differently. It would further illustrate the differences between these copies. Monsieurxander 05:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Shelley Godfrey isn't exactly notable, having only appeared in one episode... I'm not specifically opposed to it, but most of the copies do look very similar. Gina probably looks the most different from the others, so maybe having a picture of her isn't a bad idea. Having a separate picture of "Head Six" (I'm not sure that term is appropriate for the section title in the article, by the way), though, I don't think gives any necessary additional information. -- Fru1tbat 18:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Head Six" is the term Ronald D. Moore uses when referring to her in the podcasts, so that's what I went with. How about a compromise with "Baltar's Inner Six"? "In Baltar's Head" seems a bit off, as it is a description rather than a moniker. Also, I was referring to the different hairstyles/clothing/color schemes between the Sixes. Head Six and Caprica Six dress completely differently. Although, admittedly, much of the difference between the two characters is how the actress plays them. Monsieurxander 13:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right about "In Baltar's Head" being awkward. I chose it because I felt it was the most accurate way to describe her, and I couldn't think of a better name. That being said, "Baltar's Inner Six" is better, but the "inner" still doesn't sound quite right to me... It makes her sound like an aspect of his personality (like "inner child" or something), not an apparition that appears to him, and which he has limited control over. I was going to suggest "illusory", but that's not quite right either... Hmm. Eh, I'm ok with leaving it as "Baltar's Inner Six". Actually, it's starting to grow on me... -- Fru1tbat 15:27, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Unknown other versions
I'm not sure I agree with putting "it is unknown if this is the copy"-type lines for many of the other versions of Six. Maybe an introductory line (or HTML comment) is in order? Something like "Because of the nature of humanoid Cylons, later appearances of certain models may in fact be copies that have appeared earlier. Only explicit links between copies are mentioned here, and other appearances are treated individually." It seems inappropriate to have arbitrary mentions of possible connections that are completely unverifiable ("arbitrary" meaning only for certain copies, when in reality almost any of the minor copies shown could be connected). -- Fru1tbat 20:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I did a bit of cleanup, leaving only two examples. I played with the wording a bit, in an attempt to not be too distracting. If you still think an introductory line is necessary, then go for it. Monsieurxander 14:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

BSG Characters with imaginary friends

 * Gaius Baltar (apparition looks like Caprica Six)
 * Caprica Six (apparition looks like Gaius Baltar)
 * Kara Thrace (apparition looks like Leoben Conoy)

Razor
Gina Inviere should redirect here. 70.55.85.95 (talk) 04:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Nomenclature - "Inner Six" v. "Head Six"
If it is true that "Showrunner Ronald D Moore has stated numerous times in his offical SciFi BSG podcasts that the inner Six is known in scripts and among cast as "Head Six", due to Six being in Baltar's head all the time," as the article states, why does it use the designation "inner Six"? Where did that come from - fan creation? If so, the official name ought to be used in the articles. SixFourThree (talk) 18:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

is there any parrelle between head-six and the seraphs from the 1979 series? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redem444748464 (talk • contribs) 00:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Not Verified - Baby
At the end of the Caprica-Six section it has "Caprica Six is reported pregnant by the Ships Doctor. The father of the baby is Tigh.". Is there any evidence to back up this, or is it just fabricated? Appologies if this is the wrong section, just thought it should be checked out then removed Cevius (talk) 09:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This happens in the episode Sine Qua Non. It is (strongly) implied that the father is Tigh. If it is Tigh's, the writers got some 'splainin' to do. 24.68.128.218 (talk) 17:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Nicola Six
Does anyone know if the creators have ever mentioned the character of Nicola Six from the Martin Amis novel London Fields, as an influence when inventing the Six persona. Although they do not resemble one another physically, the way in which the sixes generally use their sexuality to manipulate the men (and women) around that is reminiscient of Nicola, and just the general sense of foreboding and inevitable destruction which surrounds the two characters is very similar. They are also both preoccupied by the abscence of love from their lives to the extent that they view it as an impossibility. When the Narrator, Sam, in London Fields says 'Nicola’s knack of reading the future left her with one or two firm assurances: that no one would ever love her enough, and those that did were not worth being loved by,' he could just as easily be describing the six model who in most incarnations, is devastated and disillusioned by her experiences of love.

Also they kind of have the same name! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.205.94.62 (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Episode Names and Seasons
I suggest that whenever an episode is mentioned only by name, that episode's season should also be given. Otherwise, the events described have little meaning to the reader. rowley (talk) 17:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)