Talk:O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs

Untitled
This page sounds more like a advertisement than an encyclopedic page and should be re-written.

Merger
There's nothing supporting the independent notability of this School of Indiana University. A great deal of the information in it feels promotional-- degrees offered, unsourced sentences like, "only institution in its league with an interdisciplinary character where students can combine science and public affairs." Not to mention there are no sources in this article. Unless I hear a good argument for why this article should be kept separate, I will be going WP:BOLD and merging this article into Indiana University. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 06:37, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * While I tend to agree that the article is not terribly well-written and could be improved, I must vigorously disagree with your opinion that the subject of the article (Indiana University School of Public and Environmental Affairs) does not have sufficient notability to warrant its own Wikipedia article. Established in 1972 and now comprising over 2400 students, the school is one of the oldest and largest schools of its kind.  Moreover, the school is ranked among the best of such schools in the country.  As such, the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability.


 * In any case, since the Indiana University article focuses on the various campuses of the Indiana University system, and does not focus on any of the schools on any of those campuses, merging this article with the Indiana University article would not be appropriate. Of course, the school could be (and is) mentioned in the articles for the Indiana University Bloomington campus and the Indiana University – Purdue University Indianapolis campus.  But much like the many of the other Indiana University schools mentioned in those articles, such as the IU Maurer School of Law, the IU Kelley School of Business, and the IU Jacobs School of Music, the IU School of Public and Environmental Affairs has sufficient notability to warrant it own separate Wikipedia page.


 * IULawAlum (talk) 13:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


 * There are no sources yet to support any claims to notability of the school. The number of students enrolled is not inherently indicative.  Who is the school "ranked best" by?  And "best" in what exactly?   I, Jethrobot  drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 05:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * As I previously conceded, this article could use some work. However, the user "Indyguy" has taken a step toward improving the article by adding a link to the U.S. News & World Report publication, which appears to have ranked the school #2 in the nation under the category "Public Affairs" for the current year. See http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/school-of-public--environmental-affairs-151351.  And for a list of schools competing in the same category, see http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/public-affairs-rankings. Being ranked among the best of such schools in the country, the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and so I continue to oppose your suggestion to merge the article.  I do, however, fully support your request for authors to "add citations from reliable sources."


 * IULawAlum (talk) 00:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

In view that the article now cites an independent source to support the school's claim to notability (http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-public-affairs-schools/school-of-public--environmental-affairs-151351), I suggest that the this article should no longer be considered a candidate for merger. Any objections?

IULawAlum (talk) 10:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm going to remove the merger template as there seems to be no support for that proposal. Fred Plotz (talk) 16:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)