Talk:Oʼodham language

O'Odham
Are you sure there's supposed to be two capital O's? The "O'odham" spelling is overwhelmingly more common. --Ptcamn 22:06, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I moved it back. It was moved with the claim that Zepeda says O'Odham with two capital Os is correct, but her own book cover spells it O'odham. —Angr 17:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Not the best evidence, since that's not even the original title of the book. If I were you I would have cited her poetry, which uses the same spelling. 68.105.141.176 (talk) 04:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

My reversion of recent edits
My rationale for reverting the recent edits to the article are as follows:
 * The user deleted a perfectly good resource for no apparent reason
 * Convention seems to be not to use the word "language" following the language's name in the language box
 * The added external link did not appear to have any information directly relevant to the O'odham language itself
 * Specifically saying Tohono O'odham seems to exclude Akimel O'odham, which is a dialect of the language spoken by the Pima/Akimel O'odham. As far as I know (and I may be wrong here) the current convention is to use "O'odham" alone to reference the language. In fact, that's what Zepeda uses on this page. Zepeda is a native speaker of O'odham, as well as a linguist who has done a great deal of work on her native language (she's also bilingual in English, of course), so I think her usage here is fairly good evidence that using "O'odham" alone to refer to the language is, at the very least, correct.

--Miskwito 04:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Correct, 'O'odham is the general name of the language, as evidenced by the native name for the language (regardless of dialect), ['O'odham ha-ñeoki]. 68.105.141.176 (talk) 22:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Pronounciation question
I'm curious about the phonology/orthography.

There's a kid in my class who's Tohono O'odham, and pronounces it somewhat like "Thono Onum" (don't feel like copy-pasting the proper IPA syllables.

The "th" is certainly because of the dental "t" and the pronounciation of "O'odham" due to lack of enuciation, as I see much in English and Spanish.

Is the "dh" dental or retroflex though, and is it slightly nasal? Obviously I hear things as I expect to hear English sounds, so I'm probably not hearing it properly either. --71.192.116.13 04:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The [dh] is a combination of a dental [d] and an [h]. In the Saxton orthography it's written, [O'othham]. 68.105.141.176 (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's very clearly dental, so I marked that. The /h/ is voiced here, isn't it? kwami (talk) 20:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Sample Text
Is there a reason there is no translation presented for the sample text? I'm not a native speaker, but I can provide at least a rough translation if none is available otherwise. 68.105.141.176 (talk) 22:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That would be a useful addition -- thanks for offering. Hope you find time to do it. TIA, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * i was wanting to know how much to write my name in odham my name is Sy 2600:6C5D:56F0:A470:C11A:4F3B:7476:ACB2 (talk) 04:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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External links dead
2 of the links to the dictionary are now dead. I have pdf's of them but don't know where to find them online. 150.135.165.74 (talk) 18:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Went ahead and deleted the dead links. 150.135.165.74 (talk) 19:56, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Sample text with translation
There's a published book here: https://www.sil.org/system/files/reapdata/10/04/67/100467102868469620681332441170203032624/ood_LegendsLore.pdf that has translated side-by-side O'odham and English. Would that be a helpful addition to the sample text section? 150.135.165.74 (talk) 17:22, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Added it, if it's unhelpful feel free to revert/delete/edit :) 150.135.165.74 (talk) 17:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)