Talk:Obesity in Germany

GA? Really? This article is bad.
A single study (by whom?) shows something. Why can't you find the actual study and check what's in it? This is an encyclopedia, not a school project. Citing news sources who cite studies without checking the actual study first is bad (news sources are very unreliable for citing studies; go find the actual study!). This article is not about a "news event", it's about social statistics - your sources don't fit into your article.

Now, the article is named "obesity", yet the study (according to the news articles) apparently only talks about overweight people. And so does most of the article. The lead starts with "Obesity in Germany has been increasingly [citation needed!!!] cited as a major health issue [...]. A 2007 study shows Germany has the highest number of overweight people in Europe. Obese and overweight are two different classes. Yet, from this point on in the lead, the article talks as if they're the same. They're not, obesity rates of 14-20% (the article even breaks it down as 14% of women and 16% of men) are not the same as the USA (as the article claims, based on news sources); which has obesity rates of >26%. The article further claims that obesity in the United Kingdom is actually higher. Contradiction both in facts and in words. Unenclopedic. Stereotypes (beer and fat food) don't make a good start of an article, either. The real issues are more likely sugar and fat, as in every other country. Yes, I know, some news sources state that, but when you want to get obese by drinking beer you will also turn into an alcoholic. More context and less tabloid, please. The rest of the article is even worse. "State-by-State" only talks about one state, the Forbes Ranking is just added without any context. --84.130.251.177 (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * "Why can't you find the actual study and check what's in it?"
 * Not everybody can find studies without using news articles. If this is not the case, please show me.
 * "Citing news sources who cite studies without checking the actual study first is bad (news sources are very unreliable for citing studies; go find the actual study!)".
 * How do you know that news sources don't check the studies?
 * "Stereotypes (beer and fat food) don't make a good start of an article, either. The real issues are more likely sugar and fat, as in every other country. Yes, I know, some news sources state that, but when you want to get obese by drinking beer you will also turn into an alcoholic. More context and less tabloid, please."
 * "but when you want to get obese by drinking beer you will also turn into an alcoholic." Yes. However, this article is not about "alcoholism in Germany".
 * "The real issues are more likely sugar and fat." Sugar can be found in a lot of food. So, just saying sugar and fat isn't good enough.
 * Saying beer is a stereotype is wrong. It is actually sourced in the article. Therefore it's fact.
 * "State-by-State" only talks about one state".
 * If you can find statistics and add reliable sources on any of the 15 other states, please add.
 * "Forbes Ranking is just added without any context".
 * I don't think that's true. It's shows Germany compared to other countries with similar rates.
 * "GA? Really? This article is bad"
 * As you may have seen, this article doesn't have Good Article standing. If you really think this article is so bad, then there is nothing stopping you from constructively adding to this article. Kingjeff (talk) 21:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

overweight vs obesity
article seams to serveral times mixes up overweight and obesity178.210.114.106 (talk) 11:15, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * for example the article name is Obesity in Germany, yet most of the time it talks about overweight (eg statistics, figures given)178.210.114.106 (talk) 11:18, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. This page needs a revamp. It's a complete mess and statistically worthless. First, it takes overweight into account when it is clearly supposed to be just obesity. Secondly, random facts are merged into the actual statistics, such as "Only 14% live a healthy life". That has nothing to do with obesity. 2003:6B:951:D01:AD4F:FDDE:FC63:4364 (talk) 12:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Apparent contradiction need to be sorted out!
Contributors to this article (as of 2016-10) need to sort out an apparent internal contradictions:

Intro section: "Germany had a lower incidence of overweight and obese adults as a percentage of the total population at 54.8% in comparison with France at 60.7%" Ok, got it Germany less obese than France albeit by a small margin.

Later in the history section: "In Germany, 60% of men and 43% of women are considered overweight while in France, 38.5% of men and 26% of women are considered overweight." Ah, what? Now, only a few sentences down from the intro the opposite is stated: Germany is now on average more overweight than France. If the studies contradict each other it should either be discussed why the differ or the worse of the studies should be removed.

--— J.S.talk 09:47, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

What does this even mean?
"Obesity in seniors shows that it makes seniors less intelligent."
 * This sentence makes no sense at all and should be corrected or deleted. 2003:C0:725:B100:155A:50D6:D4E5:6AFC (talk) 11:29, 5 March 2023 (UTC)