Talk:Ocean Software

Fair use rationale for Image:Ocean Software logo.png
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Who is Ashley Hodges?
Would whoever the anonymous person is who keeps adding "Ashley Hodges" to the Ocean founders list please explain who this person is before reverting again? I worked at Ocean with Jon and David for many years from the beginning and never met or heard of this person. There are also no records of him on the internet or Companies House as having anything to do with OSL. This is getting silly now. Paulie (talk) 20:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

About the "Well-Received Titles"
Many of the games in the "well received" list were not well received at all. In fact, one of the titles, Total Recall, was panned by just about every critic out there. In EGM issue 100, they put it on their top ten worst games of all time. I'm removing it, and looking up the other games for general reception. This list is iffy, and without citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuxedosponge (talk • contribs) 05:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

-- Maybe theres a better way. I remember a lot of those games fondly, but not necesarily all as GOOD games, just ones that where kind of, uh, important or something. Man this article takes me back. Golden days :) 121.221.103.28 (talk) 04:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Total Recall WAS very well recieved on the ZX Spectrum and Amstrad CPC, nobody cares about the NES version which was a completely different game. The NES was always a very low priority for Ocean, and its version (along with Target Renegade and The Addams Family) was obviously a rushed license game thrown out quickly to make some extra cash whilst they focused on the Spectrum, C64, and Amiga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.205.157 (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

-About as far as I can tell, a very large portion of their licensed titles are "rushed license games". Rather than the 5 games on that list that got excellent reviews, I think it's more notable that most of the games are horrid to the point of significance. For example, Waterworld is widely considered to be the worst game on the Virtual Boy, and video game author Stephen Kent considers the worst video game of all time. Or the NES port of Rambo, which mostly focuses on fighting snakes and spiders, and features in ending in which Colonel Trauptman is turned into a frog. Those 5 games with good reviews seem to be more of a fluke than the norm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.208.207 (talk) 11:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You just listed yet another NES game even after what was mentioned earlier, and making the worst game on Virtual Boy is hardly a notable feat when the system only had 22 games made on it, and half the games were 1st party titles developed by Nintendo!


 * The Addams Family (SNES version) got good reviews, Puggsley's Scavenger Hunt got some good reviews, Batman (Ritman Drummond) got EXCELLENT reviews, Batman the Caped Crusader (Spectrum) got good reviews, Batman the Movie (various) got good reviews, Jurassic Park (SNES) got some good reviews, Cobra (Spectrum version) got good reviews, Robocop (Spectrum/Amstrad) got good reviews, Total Recall (Spectrum/Amstrad) got good reviews, Lethal Weapon (Amiga) got respectable reviews, Darkman (Spectrum) got respectable reviews, Untouchables (Spectrum) got good reviews, Hook (SNES/Genesis) got respectable reviews.


 * So in reality half the licence games they made got decent, to great reviews, the NES games are the ones which were out and out crud, and the late SNES games (Eek, Flintstones) were just mediocre.Jesus.arnold (talk) 23:55, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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What happened to Ocean
Anyone know what happened to Ocean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.8.85 (talk) 03:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * They became the UK division of Infogrames. Verbal   chat  10:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I worked for Ocean in 1998. They had just been subsidized by Infogrammes and we were writing high concepts for Looneytunes.

I find it odd that RAY MUSLI isn't mentioned. He was the PRESIDENT of OCEAN of AMERICA (located in San Jose) and the main reason for the success with movies and licenses. Ray had a hard time when video games began to go high end and needed millions for marketing. He even mortgaged his own house to pay.

I actaully WORKED on the Ocean Software Image. My ex-husband and I worked there in 1997 - 1998. Ray, the president at the time, was already feeling that he'd sold his baby because the first cards got rid of the Ocean logo and put on the Infogrammes armidello.

Ray asked me to create a BLEND of the two logos. I think I did a great job, but Infogrammes turned it down.

I still have NO IDEA why RAY MUSLI isn't mentioned. I was there when the takeover happened. Yes, OCEAN of AMERICA (as it was called) needed finances. But, it was Ray who was president and who mortgaged his own home and probably got an ulcer or worse over this. He truly loved the company and was a good and fair man.

I'm glad that there are contentions with some of the articles on Wiki. I think it's SAD that a MAN who put so much of his LIFE into OCEAN is just FORGOTTEN!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsisGriffin (talk • contribs) 00:47, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Ocean was taken over first by the French division of Infogrammes, located in Lyon, France. I was working at Ocean at the time and even visited the French offices. I ended up leaving as I didn't want to move at the time. Then, suddenly, Infogrammes became Atari. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsisGriffin (talk • contribs) 00:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

They were basically bankrupted by Sony through a distribution scam in 1994 which pretty much wiped out half the British publishers as a precurser to their Playstation launch. Reportedly Ocean lost over 10 million, US Gold lost 18 Million, Domark lost over 3 million, and Elite lost 2 million. None of the companies apart from Elite had enough working capital to carry on, so they ended up getting absorbed into other companies, Elite managed to carry on by ending the publishing side of their business and concentrating on development. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.45.232 (talk) 23:24, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Technical Inaccuracy
The articles incorrectly states Commodore 64 computers used tape as the drive mechanism. The statement Since this computer used cassettes as storage, loading a game could take several minutes. is false. The Commodore 64 could use tape or floppy drives or ROM Cartridges http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64_peripherals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_1541 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_cartridge. The Commodore 64 was sold without a drive and the choice was only one of what the consumer was willing to purchase to load software.Tomandzeke (talk) 13:50, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Reworded. Tactica (talk) 20:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Ray Musli Vs Ray Musci
For the record, Ray's last name is Musci, not Musli. And yes, he was and still is a good man, full of passion for Ocean as President and CEO and Infogrames North-America as its COO, before being laid off by Jim Barnett, who became CEO after the acquisition of Accolade by Infogrames. Whybe01 (talk) 15:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)