Talk:Off the Deep End

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Name
What's with the name "Off the Deep End"? Does it refer to the album cover? Scott Gall 10:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a pun of Nirvana's cover, and a tounge-in-cheek reference to said cover. Gen. Quon 22:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Cassette version
"Bite Me" WAS on the cassette version (at least in the US) I have it. Jbluez27 19:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Was it after 10 minutes or just 30 seconds or something? I bought Off the Deep End on cassette (I have a collection) but it had Dare to Be Stupid in it. &mdash; Coasterge ekperson 04 ' s talk @Apr/23/08 04:52

"Bite Me" was NOT on my US cassette version, bought back on first release. It had no hidden track of any kind.--Woerkilt (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

"The Plumbing Song"
Track 10, "The Plumbing Song", contains the lyrics "Girl, you know it's true". This is most likely a subtle way of poking fun at Milli Vanilli about their 1989 album "Girl You Know It's True". (Should be mentioned by track description??)Coviti 22:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I added some information on the track description, including this.Gen. Quon 22:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Album Cover Edited
I read in an April 2000 issue of "Al's Pals" fanzine, that Al orignal wanted a twinkie to be in place of his genitals (The Nirvana album cover shows a penis) but the label rejected it. Is this true?
 * I have never heard this. I assume it was a joke.--Gen. Quon (talk) 16:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Unreleased Singles?
The article indicates that the album includes five singles, and that two of them were unreleased. What constitutes an unreleased single? Isn't its very release the sole characteristic of a single? (fumblepdi-at-yahoo-dot-com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.245.208 (talk) 11:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "The White Stuff" and "I Can't Watch This" were originally slated for release. Yankovic's record company, however, felt that these two songs were too dated to be released as single, even after they had made several boxes of promo singles. Yankovic and a fellow bandmember salvaged several of said singles, and they are often considered a rarity. therefore, technically, they are singles, just unreleased singles, and for completeness, they are being included in the "Singles" box, on this page, and on Yankovic's discography.--Gen. Quon (talk) 14:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Bite Me
I haven't tested this yet, but I've read that if you rewind the song and slow it 3 times, you will hear a distorted version of Tears of the Earth by David Hallyday. Mashedpotatowithsomegravy (talk) 05:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's true. Open the song in sound recorder, reverse it and slow it down 300% (aka 3 times). The song begins at about 17 seconds into it. It was discovered on the official "Weird Al" forums. http://www.weirdalforum.com/forum/ --Gen. Quon (talk) 21:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Removed Section
Someone removed the section I wrote about the recording of the album and the refused parody ideas, even though I had sources stated. I would like to state that the info is relevent to the page, is cited, and should be kept. If someone can give me reason why it shouldn't I'll remove it, but until then, I'm leaving it!--Gen. Quon (talk) 21:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Unclear writing
"After waiting for about a year for the "next big thing" to come out, Yankovic went on a slight hiatus in order to find the right lead-off parody/single."

This phrasing sounds redundant, awkward and wordy. If Weird Al is trying to find the right leading track for an existing project, then he's not taking a hiatus--he's still working! Or, if "waiting around for about a year" is to be taken literally, then by finding the lead-off Al had resumed work, not suspended it. Also, waiting for a big thing to come around and "finding" it sounds too similar to me.--Woerkilt (talk) 05:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Statement not supported by the citation
"Airline Amy" is described as being a style parody of Nick Lowe and Jonathan Richman. The citation for that is a Q&A in which Al said that the song was inspired by songs by Nick Lowe and Jonathan Richman. The fact that it was inspired by their songs does not make it a style parody. In the interests of full disclosure I will note that I am a huge Nick Lowe fan and am casually familiar with Jonathan Richman, and I don't hear how it sounds like a style parody. But more important than what my ears tell me (or don't tell me) is that the statement by Al does not support the claim. I think that the claim should be removed, or at least modified to say that it was inspired by songs by... rather than that it's a style parody of... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.136.153 (talk) 10:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's the exact same meaning. Style parody, style cover, inspired by... etc.--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Having not seen a correction made, and having seen no response here, I corrected the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.136.153 (talk) 20:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

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Don Henley style parody
I just saw Al in concert and he told a story about how he wanted to write When I Was Your Age as a style parody of Don Henley as a grumpy old man. That, coupled with the fact that it borrows a lot from "Dirty Laundry" leads me to believe that's true. However, I can't find an actual 'in print' reference. Is the concert banter enough to make it official? Peterrisser (talk) 16:31, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * That's a really cool find! If you can find a recording of the show, I think it'd work, but as of right now, since it hasn't been published and can't be verified, I don't think it'd hold up.-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)  20:06, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you remember when the show was that Al said this? Since the concerts are all streamable through this site, I think we can add that in as a source.-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)  14:35, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I was Only Kidding
I've never heard anything by Tonio K so I'm not arguing that this song sounds like something of his or not, but it also sounds a lot like some of the stuff that Ted Nugent put out in the mid to late '80s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FiggazWithAttitude (talk • contribs) 18:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Cheech Marin
I have read (in Discogs, so no reliable Source), that Cheech Marin appears on the Song "Taco Grande" as Guest - can this be confirmed? -- 62.216.207.181 (talk) 19:05, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * That is correct, and it is mentioned in the "Production" section, with a little bit of extra info, too: "The latter features a cameo appearance from comedian Cheech Marin. Originally, Yankovic had wanted Marin to rap in Spanish, but it turned out that Marin knew only some basic Spanish. However, a bilingual secretary translated what Yankovic wanted him to say from English to Spanish and Marin read the resulting rap phonetically."-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)  19:38, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

uhhh
is the ear booker logo not a reliable source?? it is clear that the audio is Bite Me, it only takes like 3 seconds to notice it is the song. ._. Wikisplat (talk) 18:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Sorry if my edits seemed curt. For something like this, the best sourcing would be a reliable secondary source to prove that the mention is notable. If we went the primary source route, I don't think a YouTube video is going to pass muster. Maybe a DVD or something more 'official'?--Gen. Quon[Talk] 18:52, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have a weird al show DVD, nor a dvd player yet.
 * But, there are multiple captures of the Ear Booker logo on YT showing the logo, which has the Bite me audio. Wikisplat (talk) 16:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)