Talk:Oguchi Onyewu

==height?==

well, is he 6-3 or 6-4? this article is self-contradictory. SteelyDave 18:29, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


 * In a serious paper they say he's 1 m 92 cm which makes 6.299 (UK) feet following the conversion of units article. I suppose you can convert this to the notation used in this entry. Julien Tuerlinckx 23:05, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The official US Soccer website has him at 6'4".

middlesbrough?
im a big boro fan. hopefully this guy should be here soon, possibly within the next few days. just letting you know

I am a Newcastle United fan, he has just signed for us !

im a toon fan and hes having a medical for us

Yeah yeah up the toon! Just what we need a big, solid defender!

Since when is he a solid defender?


 * I suppose since he left college and signed for a Ligue 1 side at the age of 20. Faithlessthewonderboy 13:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

The sport he plays
I changed "...is an American football player," to "...is an American soccer player," for two reasons:

1) I find that statement confusing. Is he an American that plays football? Or does he play American football? 2) Most other articles on people on the U.S. National team refer to them as "American soccer players.

Harrier233 (talk) 22:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

citizenship
according to this site http://www.soccertimes.com/americans/2008/jul14

gooch acquired citizenship in Belgium. I have indicated on the main page that he is an American/Belgian Soccer player. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.33.223.168 (talk) 02:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * He does indeed have Belgian citizenship; see this article from a Belgian neational newspaper (in Dutch) http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/Uitslagen/Sporter/index.aspx?competitie=vbcohkl1be0506&speler=VBCOHKL1BE0506-VB56EVLE-6EWK24&articleID=831R94VG
 * However, under FIFA rules, once a player has played for a country in an official tournament, he can never play for another country, whatever his citizenship status. So, in short, Onyewu will always play for the USA. The reason for applying for Belgian (and thus EU) citizenship is probably that it makes transfers to European teams easier 84.198.246.199 (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Please do not change the comment about his Belgian nationality. It was relevant to his most recent move to Milan, and will be for future moves in Europe as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.42.247 (talk) 17:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Milan not A.C. Milan
We commonly omit A.C./F.C./C.D./C.F./S.L. etc. from club names on WP. There is broad consensus for doing so on WT:FOOTY. There is only one team that would be referred to as just "Milan," as F.C. Internazionale Milano is known always as either just "Inter" in Italy or "Inter Milan" outside of Italy. Noone would ever call "Inter" just "Milan." AfterMayAndIntoAugust (talk) 19:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly. And the Manchester United example as being just "Manchester" is a misnomer... the full name of the team is Manchester United Football Club.. so the FC part of the name is omitted, leaving just Manchester United. The correct piping for the red and black team from Milan is "Milan". The correct piping for the blue and black team from Milan is "Internazionale". --JonBroxton (talk) 20:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not "commonly" omitted in the articles for other players on AC Milan. In fact, if it's so common, why is the article for the club A.C. Milan, not Milan?  Look at the articles for most of the current squad, they all at least refer to the first inference of the club as AC Milan (See Clarence Seedorf for example.  There's no stone set way to do it, thus differentiating between the two clubs, is appropriate at least the first time, subsequent times could be different, but don't try to act like it's ALWAYS referred to as Milan, because that's just being disingenuous. 98.220.57.204 (talk) 00:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The article is titled A.C. Milan because there is a city in Italy called Milan. You may have heard of it. Eightball (talk) 01:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you ever think that the article about the city of Milan is at Milan!? We don't refer to Liverpool F.C. as anything but Liverpool, or Real Madrid C.F. as anything but Real Madrid.  No one refers to Internazionale as "Milan," it's just not done, man.  Please, stop editing contrary to broad consensus.  This is now more than three editors who have disagreed with you.  AfterMayAndIntoAugust (talk) 01:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * And four or five others who, though not here now, have also reinserted AC into the article. It's not a broad consensus and you saying so is a flat out lie.  Look at the pages for about 70% of the players who do, and have, played for the club, and you'll see it referred to as AC Milan in those articles.  There are two teams in Milan, I don't care what ITALY calls a club, the majority of the sporting world refers to it as AC Milan, including the club webpage and the articles announcing his move to the club. Please stop lying about there being a broad consensus, it makes your entire argument suspect. 98.220.57.204 (talk) 01:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Chill out. Take your argument to WikiProject Football if you want to change things, otherwise quit trying to start an edit war. Eightball (talk) 01:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * On WT:FOOTY there have been many, many discussions about omitting F.C./C.F./C.D./S.L./A.C./S.C. from the piped links to football club articles. The fact that no fewer than three editors have disagreed with you should help convey that sentiment.  Please build consensus for your change, rather than edit warring.  AfterMayAndIntoAugust (talk) 01:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This same argument has taken place on other articles before, but the abbreviations for football, calcio, club, etc. are to be omitted in articles. There may be a lot of articles that still show the "A.C.", but the best articles do not. See: Kaká, Paolo Maldini, Gennaro Gattuso, Dida, and others. All I did was pull up the articles for the best-known players on Milan as well as their recently retired captain, Maldini. The most updated articles follow the policy of not including the abbreviations. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 10:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Needs a photo
Is anyone who watches this article going to the Milan vs America match in Baltimore or any of the other matches Milan is playing in the U.S. this summer? We need a picture of Gooch for this article, and it would be great to get one of him in his new club kit. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

3rd American to play in Serie A
He is only the second, because Giuseppe Rossi is not American, he's Italian. You can maybe change it to American-born player, but Lalas is the only other American to have played in Serie A.--76.78.59.40 (talk) 21:23, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

He hasn't played in the Serie A though... he hasnt played a single Serie A game since coming to Italy. You can't say he's the 2nd/3rd to play in Serie A when he hasnt played in Serie A yet... He has played for a team that plays in Serie A, but not in a Serie A game. That's like someone playing for Manchester United in a friendly fixture in the middle of the summer and saying they played in the CHampions League or the EPL even if they never play another game. --24.203.116.49 (talk) 16:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Racism controversy section
What is wrong with this section? It seems well-referenced and notable issue. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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