Talk:Oil (disambiguation)

"Petrocide"
Could someone please cite or source the usage of "petrocide" otherwise please remove that reference from this page. - Jason

Could someone also describe that oil is the earths natural lubricant, and when we drain it of it's oil, the ground we live on won't react properly...

Shouldn't this page link to Category:Oils ?

Oil (liquid)
We definitely need an article Oil (liquid) describing the basic chemical and physical properties common to all oils. I will try to start one gathering information from de:Öl and other languages, but I am not an expert on the subject. If someone would like to help, I'd be happy. -- Ravn 19:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


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move Oil (liquid) to Oil. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 07:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Oil (disambiguation) → Oil – Without first gathering group consensus, the disambiguation page at Oil was moved to Oil (disambiguation) and Oil was replaced with a redirect to Oil (liquid). Currently there are 726 articles pointing to Oil, the vast majority of which should really be pointing to Petroleum. Returning the oil disambiguation page to Oil would make fixing these hundreds of disambigs a lot easier, especially for those of us using tools like Popups. — Kralizec! (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


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Proposal leave things as they are (Oil a redirect to Oil (liquid))
* Strong oppose. Surely you jest. -Silence 21:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Proposal move Oil (disambiguation) → Oil

 * 1) Support - as per nom. --Kralizec! (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn per additional, more attractive options proposed by Philip Baird Shearer --Kralizec! (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * * Weak oppose - I do not think that the language and band deserve this - nor do the capability limitations of the popups tool. -- Ravn 21:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * * Oppose. Not merited in this case, there aren't enough things that one can confuse "oil" with, even if you factor in the three-leter acronym OIL (which we haven't). And "oil (liquid)" is clearly noteworthy to merit having the simpler name, being one of the most essential topics on Wikipedia. -Silence 21:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Proposal move Oil (liquid) → Oil

 * 1) Support I have used "Oil" in articles and had it changed to Petroleum when I ment Oil (as in the "Allies bombed German Oil supplies"). This does not mean just petroleum as the Germans used synthetic oils and the bombing targeted all stages of production. Oil (liquid) covers it better and I think should be the main page under Oil. --Philip Baird Shearer 20:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Support. This just plain makes sense. "Oil (liquid)" is one of the most important articles on Wikipedia, and there's really nothing to confuse it with according to the dab page (just a minor band and a foreign phrase that doesn't even look anything like "oil"). If the dab page had 10 or 20 things listed on it, like Mercury for example, I'd certainly support having "Oil (disambiguation)" be what searching for "Oil" gets you, but as-is the situation is just ridiculous. -Silence 21:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Support -- Ravn 21:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Support Oil is by far the most common meaning of oil. —Pengo 06:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Support Oil as a liquid in its various forms (whether petroleum, or olive oil, or whatever) is the most obvious meaning. So Oil should be an article about the various types of liquid, and should have the usual dab link at the top - i.e. For other meanings of oil, see Oil (disambiguation).--A bit iffy 08:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Support Minor band and a collective noun for the northern French languages/dialects are pretty uncommon uses . Luigizanasi 15:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Strong Support As the Oil (liquid) article is an expanded and better written version of the original Oil article (sans the disambiguation parts that were moved to Oil (disambiguation)), I feel this is a perfect solution! --Kralizec! (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

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Proposal leave things as they are (Oil a redirect to Oil (liquid)) Strong oppose. Surely you jest. -Silence 21:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No it is not a jest. Some may think this is a good idea and vote for it. Without this proposal there is no way to indicate support for the current status. --Philip Baird Shearer 23:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Proposal move Oil (disambiguation) → Oil Weak oppose - I do not think that the language and band deserve this - nor do the capability limitations of the popups tool. -- Ravn 21:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Proposal move Oil (disambiguation) → Oil Oppose. Not merited in this case, there aren't enough things that one can confuse "oil" with, even if you factor in the three-leter acronym OIL (which we haven't). And "oil (liquid)" is clearly noteworthy to merit having the simpler name, being one of the most essential topics on Wikipedia. -Silence 21:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


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swooped in an changed things! == ==

I was working off in Vegetable oil and after reading debate there and spotting a double redirect in Oils and from Oil (liquid) ... it now all points to Oil (disambiguation). After seeing the amount of debate here, I'll stop editing till I get a better sence of the data. -- &#8734;Dbroadwell 21:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I oppose this edit. See also: Talk:Oil -- Ravn 10:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Seperate entry for Petroleum
Although I think that Oil should go to an article on liquid lipids, as that is the generalised, primary and original meaning; I think that consigning Petroleum to a see also link on Oil (disambiguation) is tantamount to prescriptivism, due to the implication that it is an oft confused term as opposed to an equally legitimate and common (probably the most common) usage of oil. I've, therefore, given it its own entry in the list.


 * I agree. -- Ravn 15:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

In fact, I don't think it would be terrible to add it it the disambiguating hatnote on Oil itself, or, at least making it promnient in that article. Anyone agree?

Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 00:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I swear I did submit that edit, but doesn't appear to be in the history...
 * Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 11:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Isn't it in the hatnote already? -- Ravn 15:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)