Talk:Oklahoma Christian University

Title IX Exemption
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The policy that Wikipedia is not censored also contains the following quote which is longer than the one-sentence Title IX addition: "The University is not engaged in making ideas safe for students. It is engaged in making students safe for ideas. Thus it permits the freest expression of views before students, trusting to their good sense in passing judgment on these views." - Clark Kerr, President of the University of California (1961)[5]

Citation from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not [5] "Former UC President Clark Kerr, a national leader in higher education, dies at 92" (Press release). UC Berkeley. December 2, 2003. Retrieved August 5, 2021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.142.25.163 (talk) 09:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

OC Trustees
The update to the OC Trustees is concise and cited with an appropriate link at https://www.oc.edu/about/president/board-of-trustees. The veracity of this claim is clear from the listing of each organization the trustee represents on the OC Board of Trustees webpage. Wikipedia's policies for censorship and editing by paid editors representing corporations should be followed and this should not be reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.246.139 (talk) 20:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "University has board of trustees and they support the university's policies" is not information that adds anything to this article or informs readers of anything that isn't already patently obvious. Should we also add a sentence to the article telling readers that the university employs faculty who teach classes, too? ElKevbo (talk) 01:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The claim that the board has representatives of various organisations is not backed up by the source cited. That someone is affiliated with an organisation does not mean they represent that organisation; that requires a source saying that they have been appointed as representatives of those organisations on the board (presumably in a manner similar to the Court of a British university). The claim that "OC's policies have a wide base of support" does not appear to be supported by any citation; it certainly cannot be deduced from the existence of the Board of Directors – even if true, this would be WP:Original Research. Robminchin (talk) 04:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Robminchin that the given reference doesn't come close to supporting the claim in the text that OC's policies have a wide base of support. I do think that a comprehensive university article ought to mention (with suitable references) if it's governed by a board of trustees, though—it's an important part of the university's structure, even if not particularly distinctive. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:22, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree with ElKevbo and Robminchin that the claim is not supported by the references. Trustees at all universities are often affiliated with organizations and companies, that does not mean that those organization and companies support the mission statement of the university, particularly if it is religious in nature. The most that can be said given the current resources is that there is a Board of Trustees and that members of the Board are affiliated with several national companies and orgs, certainly nothing about support of policies. Eccekevin (talk) 07:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Our unregistered colleague disagrees and is edit warring to preserve his or her preferred version of this article. ElKevbo (talk) 04:05, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Neutrality
Does anyone else think that this article is very self-promotional in places? There is already a message in place in the "Campus" section, but I am seeing it in other places throughout the article as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was conflict of interest by faculty or other involved parties editing this page. Anyone have any thoughts? TNstingray (talk) 15:25, 2 May 2022 (UTC)