Talk:Oktagon

Comments
I write the references and for these reason I erase the notes. Thank you. I will devlope the page. --79.11.13.175 (talk) 17:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You will have a week or so to support the claims with references. Right now the references don't.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I did now, is upgrade the references? or more?

--79.21.226.149 (talk) 20:29, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

OK - I removed the PROD but left the notability tag in place for now. That still is not clear to me.Peter Rehse (talk) 21:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * For the notability These event is the most important tournament in Europe about kickboxing and maybe in the world. Is also the most old kick boxing events more old then UFC. All the year 13.000 spectators are present and pay the ticket and av. 80 national worldwide television broadcasting the events. Several VIP was present in the events Giorgio Armani, Donatella Versace, Don Wilson and as son.

Please check online or in youtube. Is clear now? thank you Peter. Some of the best worldwide fighters was borns in these events Giorgio Petrosyan (wiki) is only an example --Alec Smithson (talk) 00:17, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree, Oktagon I a over the top wordwide event of K1 rules, kickboxing and muay thai.

--87.5.128.53 (talk) 23:58, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Change Request
Jerry Speziale page

Need assistance as the individual is a well respected law enforcement leader and all the positive attributes are removed from the site and it appears that they attempt to discredit the character and are teetering on libel and slander.

1st The article calls the individual flamboyant and controversial, which is based on a reporters comment for willingly appearing in an article. Speziale lost his spouse to cancer and that doesent constitute abrubtly resigning. This was an emergent situation loosing his wife to cancer.

Then, there is the article about the 911 highjackers which is distorted and not of a neutral point, when in fact the former attorney general is Chris Christies king maker, under federal investigation for shutting the bridge and the judge in the el atriss case which speziales detectives arrested was charged and the judge found speziales detectives acted appropriately and the bail was increased.

That information exculpates speziale by showing the connection between Sampson back then and now because of the fact he is christies king maker mentor and advisor. How is that no relevant. His action was punative againsdt local law enfiorcement because he was a Christie ally. The news reported that Christie was protecting the fbi from being embarrassed and that the judge and testimony of the secret documents were clear that speziales investigators flushed out the fact and stopped communicating with the sheriffs office just prior to the raid. That should show they were not forthcoming.

Then there are numerous positive articles about speziale and the crime reduction in Paterson by an editorial board but yet no positive is added to the article and damages the subject.

Bruce James, states in an interview that speziale was the best sheriff, but when he refuses to give his money from his campaign he asks for an investigation which is a conflict and politically motivated.

See these articles and please assist with adding some of the facts that rebut this on the subject otherwise this article is slanted to damage the character of the subject and a dangerous slippery slope.

Thank you kindly for your assistance.

http://www.northjersey.com/opinion/opinion-editorials/paterson-progress-1.1389384

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-lance/chris-christies-hypocrisy_b_7953990.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5f7nx1ypns

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/19/1308163/-Prosecutors-closing-in-on-Governor-Christie-reports-Esquire

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=king+maker+mentor+david+sampson+chris+christie&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=AF845DA52D7FA5DED3C8AF845DA52D7FA5DED3C8

http://article.wn.com/view/2015/08/08/Prosecutors_investigating_Port_Authority_exchairman_Samson_r/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9h9maut6ME

http://www.worldwizzy.com/library/Bruce_James — Preceding unsigned comment added by True fact finder (talk • contribs) 14:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Fight1
Fight1 appears not to be sufficiently notable to have its own page; Oktagon seems to be its principal activity, suggest merging here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:03, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Agree on the Merge - I think that perhaps both should be taken to AfD because the notability is far from clear.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:32, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Agree on merge of Fight 1 to this one, but Oktagon is probably notable in Italy and has been going on for over 20 years. It pains me to say this because this is one of a suite of articles created by a now globally locked account who has created many troublesome articles about members of his family, their property, and their businesses. Examples:
 * "Oktagon, in 12 mila al Filaforum; Trionfo dei fratelli Petrosyan", Corriere della Sera
 * "Torino capitale del fighting con Oktagon", Rai Sport
 * "Rieti, Sakara sfiderà Rodgers all'Oktagon di Torino e si allena alla XLab", Il Messaggero
 * "Oktagon, 20esima edizione: sei ore di show al Forum di Assago", Il Giorno
 * Voceditenore (talk) 11:56, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Well then in addition to the Merge - some effort to describe why the Oktagon is notable is required.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:48, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added a few sentences about it and two more refs which explain why the tournament is notable in Italy. There's much more that could be written, if one were an enthusiast of these sorts of things, which I'm definitely not. I generally write about this sort of thing, but I'll be happy to help any MMA enthusiasts who need translation of the Italian sources. Voceditenore (talk) 15:08, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I've added some of the material in Fight1 to this article. If no one objects, I'll go ahead and complete the merge, redirecting Fight1 to this article and adding Merged to to Talk:Fight1 and merged from to this talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 16:01, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Pinging Justlettersandnumbers and Peter Rehse. Voceditenore (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No objection - I was going to do the same but happy that your doing it.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:18, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you !, for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure this event is notable. If I hadn't been, I'd have nominated it for deletion (as I have done for many other articles by this troublesome editor) instead of trying to clean it up. Voceditenore has done a great job of adding sources. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Done! Voceditenore (talk) 18:29, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Unattributed translation
This page appears to have started as an unattributed translation of the corresponding page on it.wp. I've provided attribution above on that assumption. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:28, 22 February 2016 (UTC)