Talk:Olave Baden-Powell

Correction on the Jam-Roll
Many people think that the Jam-Roll was a wedding present for B.-P. and Olave. Actually, it was a present for B.-P. given on the 1929 Jamboree, at the same time as he got his peerage. For example, see http://www.thescoutingpages.org.uk/rolls.htm for details. This is why I updated the entry. BTW, I just translated this entry into Italian

--Lou Crazy 03:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Attention tag
needs sections. Rlevse 11:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * done. Rlevse 12:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Change of Photo Caption
I have significantly changed the caption for the photo of Olave B-P. The previous caption said that it was probably taken by Robert B-P around the time of their marriage. This dates the photo to around 1912. This is incorrect as she is wearing her Silver Fish, awarded in 1918. As the photo corresponds to the photo in Cynthia Forbes' book on Guiding history "1910... and then?", I have amended the date to that given there, 1919. I acknowledge this does not agree with the date given on http://www.olavebadenpowell.org/ for the same photo. That site gives 1918 as the date. Kingbird 15:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * That WebSite is now defunct; it was once part of http://olavebadenpowell.worldguiding.net, also now defunct, but most(?) of the content has been captured from https://web.archive.org/web/20071011042614/http://olavebadenpowell.org/ and pasted into http://www.spanglefish.com/olavebadenpowell/index.asp?pageid=531822. But I haven't found THAT picture (yet).   RobinClay (talk) 00:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

False quotation
I just removed this paragraph: Lady Powell became rather notorious for stating, at a luncheon in London, that she could not bear the Jews and asserting that "everything that was happening to them was their own fault." In response to the shock created by her comment, she stated "oh come on, you all feel like that." (source, Gabriel Schoenfeld, "The Return of Antisemitism" Encounter Books (2004), page96). It should be quite obvious to anyone that this would not be Lady Olave's opinion. Especially since the editor only made this one contribution on Wikipedia... But it is better to check.

On page 96 that book says: [T]here was also the case of Lady Powell, one of the glossier fixtures on the London social-political scene. At a London luncheon, she reportedly explained that she could not bear the Jews and asserted that "everything that was happening to them was their own fault." When the remark was received with a shocked silence, she remonstrared "oh come on, you all feel like that."

Lady Powell. Not Lady Baden-Powell. Maybe a mistake, and it was indeed Lady Olave? Let's check.

This book is well documented, and gives a source. It is an article by Barbara Amiel, which appeared in the Daily Telegraph (London) on December 17, 2001, under the title "Islamists Overplay Their Hand but London Salons Don't See It". It can be read online:

It clearly says that it is talking of events after September 11.

But wait.. Lady Olave was dead in 1977, 24 years before 9/11!

So, it's not her. But we knew it from the beginning.

--Lou Crazy 00:09, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Good catch! Rlevse 11:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The Scouting/Guiding couple invariably used the double surname. To call Olave 'one of the glossier features of the London scene' would be a dubious description, she was in her 40s when Hitler took power and 56 when WWII ended.Cloptonson (talk) 08:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Early Life Section
The Early Life section of this article was removed earlier today. It would be better to rewrite the section or move the information to another part of the article. Kingbird 16:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC) I recently noticed that my prior entry regarding Lady Powell was corrected by Lou Crazy, and sent him a note thanking him for his diligence and research in noting my apparent but unintentional error. I appreciate his time and effort, and apologize for my error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vabsalom (talk • contribs) 00:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Banned from travelling?
I am confused about the sentence saying Lady Baden-Powell was banned from travelling in 1970. I was one of thousands of scouts that saw her three years later in America.

She appeared at the Boy Scout Jamboree in Pennsylvania in August 1973. (this edit made 7 June 2009)

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Russian descent ????
From WHERE does this spring ? "Category:English people of Russian descent" ??? Someone having a laugh ? Her mother's father, George Hill (then 41, and in England!), described himself in the 1861 Census as a "Russia Merchant", as the Hills had been (for at least four generations) in St. Petersburg; but most (all?) had married Englishwomen in England, and most of the children were born (and educated) in England - no "Russian blood" anywhere ! RobinClay (talk) 23:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I've removed it.  RobinClay (talk) 10:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)