Talk:Old & In the Way

Grateful Dead
I would propose removing the greatful dead stuff. simply because jerry garcia ws in the band does not necessairly make it relevant to that band. if anyone has any objections let me know. if not i'll remove it within a week. --Tainter 00:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Name
On the Album cover it says Old & in the Way. Not Old and in the Way. I believe the page name should be changed to reflect that on both the album and band pages. --Tainter (talk) 20:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel that "and" is somehow better that "&", but so far I haven't found any Wikipedia guidelines that support my preference. If there's no guideline against the "&", I guess the article names should match the actual names of the group and album.  The album cover does show "&", but I'm not sure that's definitive.  Let's see if any other editors chime in. — Mudwater (Talk) 01:22, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If the band calls themselves "Old & in the Way" explicitly the title should indeed appear like that. Been banging on it all afternoon, on and off, to try to fix.  DISPLAYTITLE wouldn't work for me, a page move brought up lots of scary red text warnings, can't figure it out from Penn & Teller, will keep trying. Huw Powell (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I changed my mind, and decided that the "&" is just an artistic effect on the record cover. So I moved the page back to the current "and" spelling and replaced the ampersands in the article with "and"s.  Huw Powell (talk) 01:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

We use the WP:Common name - that is, the name most used by reliable sources. In this case all sources I checked use &. We allow & when it is part of a proper name, such as the name of a group, album, or book - see MOS:AMP. I have, I think, corrected all instances of "Old and in the Way" to "Old & in the Way" as far as I am aware - though there may be still some examples out there. SilkTork (talk) 16:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but, I'm pretty sure it should be "Old & In the Way", with a capital "I". If you look at Manual of Style/Titles, it says that prepositions containing four letters of fewer, such as "in", should not be capitalized -- unless they are "The first word in a compound preposition (e.g. Time Out of Mind)".  In this case, "in" is the first word of a compound preposition, i.e. "In the way". You can find the same rule in some other places, for example Naming conventions (capitalization). — Mudwater (Talk) 22:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You're right. I missed that. And that is also, generally, how sources do it. SilkTork (talk) 11:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it's all updated now. SilkTork (talk) 11:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Excellent. Thanks!  — Mudwater (Talk) 23:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Best selling?
Citation please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.137.92 (talk) 03:12, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * This has to be in some Billboard listing. Does someone know how to find this, billboards website doesn't go back that far.  I did find the following references to this The Sales from this project have exceeded other albums of like kind, but the record that was later released went on to become the biggest selling bluegrass album of all time, and was for many years the best-selling bluegrass album in history.  Are these references enough to add something about the album being one of the bestselling bluegrass albums of all time? Drumzandspace2000 (talk) 12:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say that those references are enough. Also, Allmusic lists the first album as getting to number 99 on the Billboard 200, here. — Mudwater (Talk) 12:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Round Records
I would propose changing the title of the recording company from Grateful Dead to Round records Bobwurst (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, Round Records seems to be correct. — Mudwater (Talk) 21:54, 14 April 2022 (UTC)