Talk:Old Croghan Man

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Corn in ancient Ireland?
From the text: Other theories suggest that Old Croghan Man and other bog bodies were sacrifices to gods of fertility or harvest,[2] and killed and buried to ensure good yields of corn

My point is that corn didn't exist in Ireland at the time he was killed. Corn comes from South America and was only introduced after European expeditions just a few hundred years ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.112.210 (talk) 16:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a fair point. I've applied a quick DAB/fix to the more generic "cereals" term. That whole sentence has been uncited for a while however, and either needs a proper cite (or to be removed). Guliolopez (talk) 16:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

In Ireland and the UK "corn" is a catch all term for grain - Oats, Wheat, Barley etc. This is probably the cause of confusion here - as an Irishman the usage here would not have caused me to think of American corn which we would call Maize — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.250.0.49 (talk) 05:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Contradiction
The two main sources provided seem to contradict each other on an important point. The "Mirror" source suggests that the damage to the nipples occurred before death and is indicative of torture. The "National Geographic" source reads "Arm wounds suggested he had tried to fend off a knife before he was fatally stabbed in the heart. Then his body had been oddly mutilated—his nipples apparently cut" - suggesting a post-mortem mutilation. Further texts are less clear cut, and put forward (a more balanced) view of multiple possible causes. (ante-mortem torture by attackers, post-mortem mutilation for symbolic reasons, or just post-mortem degradation in the bog). Whatever the case, the current text should probably be tempered to reflect the lack of certainty. Unless there are any other opinions (possibly more informed on the subject than I), I'm going to update to address these issues. Guliolopez (talk) 15:38, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Any comments on the above before I review to see if these issues can be addressed? Guliolopez (talk) 11:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I myself have no objections. Make it so. AlecTrevelyan402 (Click Here to leave a message)


 * ✅ Guliolopez (talk) 16:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

photo to add
here is the link to the photo if anyone can add it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/knobil/2048845714/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa (talk • contribs) 03:25, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * We cannot upload images from Flickr that have that sort of license. Please read this for the guidelines. -- ''Gourami Watcher    (Gulp) 13:42, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Possibly vandalism?
"...and noted for the "gel" found in his hair.[1]" this needs to be sourced and / or expanded, or simply removed as vandalism" any author have a position on removing this phrase?


 * The sentence that you are referring to is about the Clonycavan Man. If you do research via the internet, I assure you that you will find many to describe the mummy's hair gel. -- ''Gourami Watcher    (Gulp) 13:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Irish name
Can somebody please verify the Irish Name Seanfhear Chruacháin for Old Croghan Man. --Bullenwächter (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

It seems wrong to me - it translates as "Old man from Croghan" - I had always assumed the townland he was found in was Old Croghan, so it should instead be "Man from Old Croghan". In English "Old Croghan Man" is ambiguous - could mean old man from Croghan or man from Old Croghan, whereas in Irish it's definitely the former. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.250.0.49 (talk) 05:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

The locality may correctly be "Oldcroghan". Although seen mostly as "Old Croghan" in online articles, in the museum where the body is exhibited, it's labeled as "Oldcroghan Man". Similarly in this article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/01/0117_060117_irish_bogmen.html 160.111.254.17 (talk) 17:17, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

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