Talk:Old Strathcona

Cafe LaGare
Does anyone know what happened to Cafe LaGare? It's significance is, in my opinion, examplaty of the transformation of Whyte Ave from a largely un-branded, sub-cultureesque community into whatever it is today. Consider LaGare, and is mysterious dissapearance, a metaphor.

Yes, I do. Cafe LaGare went out of business when the trend it started overtook it. Too many good coffee stores in better locations. LaGare could not compete. Old Strathcona has some brands but mostly it is local business. Want local business to stay? Support it.

I am proud of having seen this article on Whyte Avenue. It is indeed a terrific and unique place of culture and entertainment in Edmonton!

I was just wondering when the Old Strathcona farmers' market building was first constructed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.255.123 (talk) 02:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Bars
Should not something be said of the 3000 bar seats along Whyte Ave, or the Canada riots? Mr Minchin 03:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know how whyte Ave got its name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.95.204 (talk) 02:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge?
I think that Old Strathcona desrves its own article, apart from Edmonton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.229.44 (talk • contribs)


 * Oppose. It's typical for neighborhoods of major cities to have articles. See Category:New York City neighborhoods, Category:Districts of London, Category:Montreal neighbourhoods as examples.  Edmonton might not be on the same level of "global cities" as those, but there's enough detail specific about Old Strathcona that the article can stand on its own.  Though, it's entirely unreferenced and needs cleanup.  The Edmonton article is way too long as is, with it's length a reason why it won't pass WP:FAC.  Merging more detail into the main article only exacerbates that situation.  To the contrary, the Edmonton article needs to cut down on detail and put detail in subarticles.  --Aude (talk) 21:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Old Strathcona is not only deserving of its own article, there should be more articles on Edmonton neighbourhoods like Oliver and Riverdale. --Somewildthingsgo (talk) 21:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Agree. In fact, the part of Edmonton most people think of as Old Strathcona lies in several different Edmonton neighborhoods.  We tend to associate Old Strathcona with that part of Whyte Avenue between the University of Alberta and the Mill Creek Ravine.  The neighborhood of Strathcona is located north of Whyte and between Mill Creek and 197 Street.  West of 107 is Garneau.  South of Whyte are the neighborhoods of Queen Alexandra and Ritchie.

Johntwrl 17:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Bias
This article is written poorly and unprofessionally. The author of some sections shows a distinct bias towards independent businesses, as is evidenced by the list of independents formerly operating at the intersection to be replaced by chain stores. Regardless of opinions on independents versus chain stores, the Wikipedia Old Strathcona article is not the place to state opinions. Rather, it should simply be stated that there exists some resistance to the opening of chain stores on Whyte Avenue.

Furthermore, the description of Yianni's restaurant as a place with many "characters", with a reputation for "alcohol abuse" is completely inappropriate for this article and, as such, was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.11.98 (talk) 04:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

The Cinema article has a blurb about Alternative Video Spot that reads like a press release and is entirely inappropriate. --Ryan Dika (talk) 21:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Separated Articles
The city of Edmonton has a formal residential subdivision called Strathcona. Parts of this neighbourhood, particularly those along Whyte Avenue, would be associated with Old Strathcona. Other parts, like those east of the CP rail right of way and closer to the river might not.

At the same time, some areas along Whyte Avenue that people might associate with Old Strathcona are actually located in the neighbourhoods of Garneau and Queen Alexandra.

So I've "repurposed" the redirect page to this article called Strathcona (Edmonton) as an article on the residential neighbourhood of Strathcona. This article focus on things like types of housing, periods of residential development, access to other areas of the city, schools, and the like. Things that would be important to someone looking for a place to live.

That means this page can focus more on the commercial and cultural activities associated with this part of the city. Things like the theatre and cinema scene, the bar and pub scens, events such as the Fringe Festival, and the like.

Stuff associated with the historical development of the area, particularly before the area became a part of Edmonton can be placed in the article on Strathcona, Alberta.

Johntwrl 06:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Events
Does the reference to the Stanley Cup playoffs need to be here. It seems rather unimportant. I'll leave it to someone else to remove this. I'll also leave it to someone to remove the comment that locally grown produce is available in March. In Edmonton, Australia maybe but not Edmonton, Alberta —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spj (talk • contribs) 15:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Too many shops listed
I am going to gut the various lists of shops and establishments. It should be good enough to say that there are lots of bars and coffee shops without getting into a list of examples. Lists like this start out OK: someone writes a nice sentence that gives a couple examples of the most prominent and notable ones. Then someone else comes along and expands the list, then someone else, and so on. Nobody bothers to delete the shops and bars that have closed, or renamed, and pretty soon what was once a readable paragraph becomes just unreadable list cruft, unverifiable, non-notable, and original research. Indefatigable (talk) 15:33, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's what happens. 117Avenue (talk) 18:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Old Strathcona
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Old Strathcona's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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Split proposed
I propose that the Old Strathcona be moved to a new section within the 2005–06 Edmonton Oilers season article. The Blue Mile was one-time event that occurred during the 2006 NHL playoffs, but has has not been replicated since (not making the playoffs until 2017 would have that effect, but that's another discussion...). While the Blue Mile did happen along Whyte Avenue, it's more of a historical event and not currently relevant to Old Strathcona / Whyte Avenue. -- MuzikMachine (talk) 16:31, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Support as proposed (nearly 3.5 years later). Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 07:20, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Sub-section for consideration: Pride Corner
Pride Corner (intersection of 104 Street and Whyte Avenue) deserves it's own sub-section in the Present Day section. I have a list of a few sources that talk about the importance of Pride Corner, what it is, etc, below, for anyone interested! LittleSoka (talk) 23:30, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Boothby, Lauren. (2022-09-16). Edmonton's Pride Corner faces violent threats, one suspect arrested. Edmonton Journal. https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/violent-threats-halt-edmontons-pride-corner-protests-temporarily
 * Ekelund, Brittany. (2022-06-09). 'We wanted this intersection to be safe': Pride Corner on Whyte Ave a big win for local queer community. Edmonton Journal. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/we-wanted-this-intersection-to-be-safe-pride-corner-on-whyte-ave-a-big-win-for-local-queer-community-1.5938977
 * Issawi, Hamdi. (2022-05-13). Edmonton recognizes 'Pride Corner' on Whyte Avenue. Edmonton Journal. https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/edmonton-recognizes-pride-corner-on-whyte-avenue
 * Chacon, Chris. (2022-09-23). Edmonton's Pride Corner celebrations are back amid threats made against 2SLGBTQ+ group. Global News. https://globalnews.ca/news/9152912/edmonton-pride-corner-return-threats/
 * Young, Pamela. (2022-04-18). A busy intersection in Edmonton has been dominated by homophobic street preachers for years. Xtra Magazine. https://xtramagazine.com/power/pride-corner-221472