Talk:Oliver Daemen

Birth date
August, 2003 or before? If so he was 17 when he flew the suborbital flight. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If so then in other words, he is the first person to reach space while in a legal minor age. This is huge, for good and for bad.193.32.85.121 (talk) 15:20, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * HollywoodLife.com does not seem like a particularly authoritative source here; it seems especially odd given that every reputable source I've seen says he's 18, including sites in Britain and the Netherlands. Samer (talk) 15:41, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * In the same article which lists August 20, 2003 as Daemen's birthdate he is quoted as saying he is 18 (the source quoting an earlier video). Randy Kryn (talk) 16:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The year could be a typo error on the news article. Typo erros can and have happened. We need to determine from another article if the year is 2002 or indeed 2003. If the latter is correct, It seems very odd that every news report and article that I have seen says he's 18 at the time of flight. Raphael.concorde (talk) 18:55, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * HollywoodLife.com is not accepted as a source for the birth date but it is accepted for the birth place. A bit odd. For the age if the date is correct he is 17 and 11 months so it could be said it has been rounded up to 18... Hektor (talk) 07:06, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


 * You'd think that with the historical nature of Daemen's deed specifically tied to his age that at least some determined reporters and researchers would focus on the exact date of birth. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * And now the year of birth is listed simply as (born 2002/2003). That the exact age of histories youngest astronaut remains unknown is a plot twist worthy of Heinlein's teens-in-space novels. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:29, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Now back to August 20, 2003, he's 17 again, full of gumption and spit, flying in space like angels of yore, except the sources are still in question and contradictory. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Now (born circa 2003), neither words nor irony can improve on that. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:50, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * In the meantime to avoid further confusion or back and forth edits, lets agree for now as 2002. (that original article must has a typo issue, the number 2 is immidiately next to 3, and the editors overlooked it). Anyone's efforts to find another news article with the correct birth year will be kindly appreciated. Thanks Raphael.concorde (talk) 15:33, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it would be better to have no date at all rather than a date based on a reasoning which is like : ″oh we take the date from this unreliable source and since there must be a typo we subtract one year″. If the year is wrong, why would the month and day be right ? Hektor (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Assuming you're right, and since 20 August, 2002, has been used since, then the Wikipedia approved birthdate for the youngest person to go into space comes from a previous source which, we assume for some reason, contained a typo (2003 for 2002) which was missed by the writer and whatever editorial chain the article had to pass through, so let's use 2002 instead as a good guess. Until any of this has a good source I'd agree that any birthdate should be removed. Personally I'm hoping that on August 20 Oliver and his parents announce that yes, he was only 17 when he took the flight, as the soul of Robert Heinlein dances happier with his Ginny. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Scientific experiments
Let's hope he performed some scientific experiments during this (rather short) mission. For example: observing the variety of colors of earth's atmosphere and surface as seen from one hundred kilometers above the ground. Could be an interesting 'extra' for his own Wikipedia page! Or was he just a tourist? DannyCaes (talk) 11:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The only science experiment I heard about during both recent flights is a NASA experiment on board Virgin Galactic Unity 22 operated by Sirisha Bandla. Hektor (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Mmmmm... although it's space tourism, there is still science up there... which sounds interesting! (by the way, as CDR David Scott of Apollo 15 said, when he and LMP James Irwin were at the Hadley plain on the moon, in the summer of 1971: Man Must Explore!) DannyCaes (talk) 16:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Relevance of Daemen's father to notability
Multiple independent editors, including myself appear to have independently noted sourced information from reliable sources regarding Daemen's father & the source of his wealth, which allowed him to bid on the space flight that made Oliver not-able. This particular bit of information has been repeatedly removed by the same user User:Mwiki80 who has no edits to pages other than this & another about space tourism, there also removing similar information. While I mildly suspect an undisclosed COI based on the nature & pattern of these edits, I'm starting here to simply note the information is both credible, reported in reliable sources, and relevant to Oliver's notability for other editors to note, discuss, comment on. I'll invite Mwiki80 to comment as well. Phil (talk) 13:36, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * It is important and has been brought back. MouseInDust (talk) 12:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)