Talk:Omega Seamaster Omegamatic

Omega Seamaster Omega-matic
A tag has been placed on Omega Seamaster Omega-matic, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of Omega Seamaster Omega-matic and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Ofbarea (talk) 04:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi folks,

This page is intended for the people that still has this old watch or for the people with some interest in the no longer made autoquartz watches.

I do not see how the sea Master Omaga-matic page "It does nothing but promote some entity and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic. Note that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion. See CSD G11."

I´m talking about a watch model that has not been manufactured in more than 9 years, that was a commercial failure and today it is not appreciated by watch collectors.

I saw that in Wiki there are other pages of watches that are currently sold and are actually a real market success:


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Speedmaster_Professional
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolex_Submariner

I even attempted to follow the Rolex Submariner format in my own page.

My idea of writing this page started a few weeks back when I was looking for info on this watch. In wiki I found one reference to it. It was in this page where the Seamaster auto-quartz was mentioned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_quartz,

Since the reference was there I decided to fill the blank.

I´m willing to hear suggestions. What should I do make this article a valid one?

By the way, my only relation with Ormaga is that I own the Seamaster omegamatic watch in question.

Regards, ofbarea

Needs Major rewrite
The article probably needs a major rewrite to avoid going to AfD or another deletion criteria. I could do some of the grammer changes (and will probably attempt to) but, it will need someone else to wikify it properly and make it "conform" to policy. Jasynnash2 (talk) 12:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Working on it
Hi Jasynnash2,

Thanks for your kind reply. I started reviewing the wiki style guidelines and I started fixing some of the problems I could find. Since English is my second language it becoming a complicated job identifying what's wrong with my text. I did detected some wrong use of capital letters, title names and several typos. I will try my best fixing as much as I can find.

I also hope to learn from this article so my second attempt of contributing to wiki will be less problematic.

Regards, ofbarea —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ofbarea (talk • contribs) 15:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

excessively technical data moved from article to talk
The capacitor used in Omegamatic watches is a Renata GC920 (9.5 x 1.9 mm 2.4V 0.33F). in the event of failure due to electrolyte leak, this capacitor could be replaced by a Panasonic MT920 1.5V (ETA MT920/Citizen 298-177) rechargeable battery. Another compatible rechargeable battery is the Maxell TC920S lithium-ion cell (Seiko 3023 xxZ).

For other failures, the best option would be getting a watch with a 205.911 caliber (Tissot PR100 autoquartz) and use it for spares. The use of a Swatch autoquartz it is not recommended as these carry the inferior ETA 205.711 15 jewel caliber.

ETA 205.111 technical communication document, in electrical test section, states that capacitor voltages will fluctuate from 0 to 2.4V. It also documents that external power supply tests are to be run with 1.55V (measured with the capacitor in place).In ETA 205.911 technical communication document, Interchangeability (List of material) section, it is listed that the major parts that differ from 205.111 caliber are Generator (part no. 20.590.00 for 205.911 and part no. 20.515.00 for 205.111) and accumulator (part no. 20.575.00 for 205.911 and part no. 20.802.00 for 205.111 - capacitor). Demo-version of the ETA ONLINE SHOP list the generator for caliber 205.911 (Article no, 04203.205111 (CS) / 251987) as part no. 20.515.00 (the same part number for caliber 205.111) and it specifically mentions that it is compatible with calibers 1400 B, 205.911 C and 205.911 E.