Talk:Omega Upsilon Phi

About the Cincinnati chapter
An unreferenced note against this chapter, Beta (2nd), which was formed in 1900, said that it had originated as a ΘΝΕ chapter. Now, Theta Nu Epsilon is fairly well known among Greek historians. Neither the Wikipedia article with its expansive (and questionably long) list of chapters, nor any edition of Baird's Manual lists a Cincinnati chapter. Nada. Assuming good faith, perhaps this Cincinnati chapter came from a local chapter that had been named Theta Nu Epsilon merely by coincidence... This predecessor chapter to ΩΥΦ's Beta (2nd) chapter was old enough so that the emergence of a coincidental solo chapter called Theta Nu Epsilon could have occurred in the decades prior to 1900. From what I recall, it was at about this time, 1900, or maybe 1910 when the NIC formed, that strong national resistance to Theta Nu Epsilon (national) would arise. This was certainly due to ΘΝΕ's effort to rope in sophomores as an early single-class focus; sophomores being the lifeblood of chapters, the other nationals saw this as sapping the strength of the 4-year fraternities. Further, the penchant for secrecy of ΘΝΕ, not naming its new sophomores, didn't win it many fans among the arising NIC world. Hence, ΘΝΕ, (the national), was soon a pariah. Most chapters failed. An effort was made to gain legitimacy in the 1930s, but the moment was lost, and only a few chapters continued in varying states of organizational model. Jax MN (talk) 01:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC)