Talk:One Direction/Archive 1

Request
Please include that Tom Fletcher from boy band Mcfly wrote the song 'I Want' that features on One Direction's album 'Up All Night' this is only fair as artists Kelly Clarkson and Ed Sheeran have been given credit.

They were also featured on Daybreak, on Niall's 18th birthday. This is their most noteable feature on Breakfast television. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XJooeyx1D (talk • contribs) 10:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Individual articles?
Of course they haven't released a single or any music, but they are very notable, released autobiographies and a huge fanbase. Don't you think they should have their own articles? 82.46.152.122 (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Siete fantastici,bellissimi,bravissimi

unsigned comment added by 67.167.233.165 (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Redirect or article?
I have just reverted the edit of 13:39, 31 July 2011 by User:AnemoneProjectors, changing this article to a redirect for a second time. According to the guidelines at Deletion_policy it was fine to do this once, but it should not have been changed to a redirect a second time:


 * "Sometimes an unsuitable article may have a title that would make a useful redirect. In these cases, deletion is not required; any user can boldly redirect to another article. If the change is disputed, an attempt should be made on the talk page to reach a consensus before restoring the redirect."

In other words, since the change made is disputed, then to change this article into a redirect (effectively deleting it) then it is necessary to establish a consensus here on the talk page first.

So, for my part I believe the article meets the guidelines set out at WP:Notability (music). In particular, it meets:
 * Clause 1 ("Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself") - lots of coverage in the national newspapers.
 * Clause 9 ("Has won or placed in a major music competition.") - they finished third on last year's X Factor.

I would also take note of WP:Articles for deletion/Eoghan Quigg, which is in a similar position (third place X Factor candidate, discussion before he released any records). Although the deletion was hotly debated, it was in the end closed as a keep. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 09:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Would you really like articles about every single X Factor finalist? They could all satisfy both clauses. That's why we decided, BY CONSENSUS, to ignore clause 9 in these cases, as these articles would be unnecessary until such time as a finalist had become notable for some other reason. This applies to One Direction. I'm sure Quigg isn't the only article to have been up for AFD, I am sure others have not survived. Stacey Solomon did not have an article until she won I'm A Celebrity..., not even during the time she was on the show. Other finalists have only had an article when they had a second reason for notability, excluding Jedward because they had MASSIVE amounts written about them during the series, more than any other finalist in the show's history, and Cher Lloyd, whose creation I continued to dispute, but could not go against consensus in the end, plus her single is out now so there's little point sending her article to AFD. The list entries for all the finalists satisfy GNG, so we should always wait until a contestant becomes notable for a second thing, outside of just reporting that someone is due to have a musical career. – anemone projectors – 14:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No, I wouldn't have an article for every X Factor contestant because most don't satisfy the criteria for being notable outside of the reality format. However, One Direction are clearly more than that. Eight months on from the X Factor, everyone has heard of them, they have appeared on Alan Carr chatty man, their Facebook page has 612,000 fans. The list goes on. So rather than applying arbitrary rules for X Factor contestants, which are themselves already in contradiction with the WP:Notability (music) rules, we should use common sense.
 * Personally I am no fan of 1D - in a format which already specialises in manufactured pop, they are manufactured-squared, due to being just an amalgamation of those who failed as solo artists. But WP is not about our personal preferences, it's about reflecting the world at large. And in the world at large they are very notable. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:12, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The article as it stands right now doesn't really demonstrate their notability outside of The X Factor. A TV interview doesn't really add to that, neither does the number of Facebook fans. I personally think we should wait until close to the release of their single. At the moment, it's a lot of blank information and a list of X Factor performances, which, to be honest, is just filler material. – anemone projectors – 11:33, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Rebeccalaura, 4 September 2011
i want to change it back as its been vandalised, with harsh comments after the band members names

Rebeccalaura (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thanks for letting us know-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:11, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 90.213.66.176, 12 September 2011
They came 1st in the charts for their single 'What Makes You Beautiful'

90.213.66.176 (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 20:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * In addition to that, the single only just came out this week so won't have charted until this Sunday in the UK. – anemone projectors – 13:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Natzloveu, 16 September 2011
I would like to edit the one direction page because i would like to make a page for each seperate boy member .After i have competed there pages i will block it off from edits because of biography reason. So please un block so i can do this.

Natzloveu (talk) 18:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Padlock-dash2.svg Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Requests for page protection. — Bility (talk) 18:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Jamieprkr00, 22 September 2011
One Direction are launching a new mobile phone. I would suggest that since the site already highlights an affiliation with the Pokemon brand, this project is equally relevant. I would just suggest a sentence like this somewhere:

'In September 2011, One Direction were revealed to be launching a new mobile phone with Nokia for sale from October'. You could use the following link as a source.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150303219636523.343179.143841031522&type=1

If more detail was desired you could use the quote Liam provided: Liam Payne said: "Our fans are always on their phones, so we thought this would be a great thing to do. It's the first time fans have had a chance to have a phone customised by their favourite band."

This is the source: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23988450-one-direction-left-feeling-blue-after-video-shoot.do

Jamieprkr00 (talk) 13:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Bility (talk) 20:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Blablablabla00
There is a Dutch One Direction page too, maybe the link to it should be in this? Blablablabla00 (talk) 17:09, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The Dutch page has been deleted. – anemone projectors – 13:11, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Needing a lot of citation
Yeah, links are needed verily. -Vaarsivius ("You've made a glorious contribution to science.") 21:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 21 November 2011
Where the charts for One Directions singles are listed, can the chart position from australia please be changed? What makes you beautiful is currently at #5 here, but it is still listed as peak position being #10. Thanks

Mollyaus (talk) 07:08, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Please could you give a reference to a reliable source, and ask again. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 07:49, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 22 November 2011
Please change Louis Tomlinson's birthday to 24 December, 1991, because Feb 1 is not his birthday. Thank you!

Deancas (talk) 03:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. According to whom is his birthday 1 February? —C.Fred (talk) 03:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Birthday of Louis Tomlinson
On the One Direction wikipedia page, someone has edited the page and I have noticed that Louis Tomlinson is incorrect. It should say that his birthday is on 24 December, 1991 NOT 1 February 1994. Thanks (this is according to google and IMDB and i'm pretty sure they're correct.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelleempire (talk • contribs) 08:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 23 November 2011
PLEASE CHANGE

Please change

Harry Styles
Harry Styles (born 1 February 1994)

to...

Louis Tomlinson
Louis Tomlinson (born 24 December 1991)

Hannahbutton (talk) 23:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done used this as a source, which states that he is 20 on 24 December 2011. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:37, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Niall Horan
He is dating Amelia Lily, a contestant on the eighth series of The X Factor, after she caught his eye backstage.


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Trivial and not needed unless the relationship becomes notable. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:20, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 December 2011
Please remove the line 'Horan is reportedly been dating The X Factor eight series finalist Amelia Lily but this has not been comfirmed'. He is in fact dating my sister, and rumours like this upset her.

Lizzymc134 (talk) 18:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed as poorly source and non-notable. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 02:56, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Please include that Zayn's name is actually spelt Zain. He just thought it would be cooler to have it be spelt with a 'y' instead of an 'i' which I believe is ridiculous. Seriously though, his name is actually spelt Zain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamlover (talk • contribs) 00:39, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Harry Styles
He is currently dating TV Presenter Caroline Flack. Despite the 15 year age gap.

Kaitlin Kelly (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Really? -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 23:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ❌, unsourced and the second part is not appropriate-- Jac 16888 Talk 23:31, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 January 2012
Hello, under 'Non-Music Activities/Calenders', "there" should be the possessive "their", and 'calendar' is actually spelt 'calendar', not 'calender' as it appears twice in this section. I didn't read many of the other sections, but did notice these small mistakes in 'Calenders', so thought that I should suggest them to be fixed.

Cheers, Not a Registered Wikipedia User Yet

118.93.106.168 (talk) 12:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks! Dru of Id (talk) 13:53, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 January 2012
Please change One Direction is a British-Irish boyband to One Direction is an English-Irish boyband, as apart from Niall, who is from the Republic of Ireland, there is no member from outside England.

82.37.41.46 (talk) 20:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The country is the UK, so they are referred to as British. Please gather consensus before making protected edit requests. — Andrew s talk  20:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

harry styles rummored to be dating
Harry styles is rumored to be dating a girl by the name of Ariadna. She was pictured in some of the pictures of Styles clubbing getting really close. Nothing has been confirmed so far.

Ishouldhavekissed1 (talk) 01:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * We don't add rumours, especially relationship rumours, and even more especially relationship rumours without references. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. — Andrew s talk  03:58, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Zayn Malik Rumored Girlfriend
Malik, is rumored to be dating a girl named  Hailey  Hailey has been spotted on certain pictures in Malik's apartment. Malik was asked and he responded by saying '' She's a nice girl, but we're taking things slow. ''

Ishouldhavekissed1 (talk) 01:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, relationship rumours are irrelevant. — Andrew s talk  03:58, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 February 2012
Years active 2011-2012

82.5.15.150 (talk) 23:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.-- Ankit Maity  Talk 08:48, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Nominations..
Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards 2012 Favourite UK Band: One Direction Favourite UK Newcomer: One Direction — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.195.84 (talk) 04:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 March 2012
Under Awards and Nominations, it should be added that in 2011, One Direction won two Bizarre Awards, one for Best Pop Act and one for Shaggers of the Year. This can be seen at http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4019327/Sir-Paul-McCartney-and-others-win-at-the-Bizarre-Awards-2011.html or in a video at http://onedirectionupdates.wordpress.com/2011/12/26/bizarre-awards-one-direction-winning-shaggers-of-the-year-and-best-pop-act/ where they are seen accepting the award. Thanks! Hope these are better sources than last time.

68.101.71.100 (talk) 20:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 05:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 March 2012
It should probably be mentioned that portmanteaus, particularly "Larry Stylinson", are usually used to describe two of the band members in a bromance-type way or (much more often) to describe a secret romance that fans believe is happening.

173.66.61.227 (talk) 00:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 March 2012
Please change Zayn Jawaad Malik to Zayn Javadd Malik as this middle name is incorrect it had been proven on his twitter where numerous times he has posted and other band members have posted his name as Javadd instead.

Biancamoreiraa (talk) 19:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ Twitter is not a reliable source. Dru of Id (talk) 21:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Billboard charts
What Makes You Beautiful is not the highest Billboard Hot 100 for a UK act since 1998. The Wanted had a position of 5. --Dhanyiaa (talk) 12:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

It's highest DEBUT not peak for a u.k artist read better AdabowtheSecond (talk) 15:48, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 March 2012
harry styles is currently in a relationship with australian carly davies

Carly-styles (talk) 01:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 02:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 March 2012
it says on the one direction page that One Direction are "the first UK group in history to debut at number one in the US with their debut album" which is not true; spice girls in fact did too; so maybe it should say since the spice girls unless it means boybands but this infomation isn't at all right with its wording and its fact. so please could it be changed.

AW1893 (talk) 04:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

No that's not true. Spice debuted at number 7. The fact is completely accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.133.203.195 (talk) 11:38, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 14:58, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 March 2012
After Harry's description, please write that he has one star tattoo under his left arm that is supposedly representing the five boys from One Direction.

Nomusan (talk) 12:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 March 2012
After Harry's description, please write that he has one star tattoo under his left arm that is supposedly representing the five boys from One Direction. There is proof in the One Direction hits 3 million likes on facebook! video that is posted on youtube.

Nomusan (talk) 12:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 March 2012
One Direction have announced Oceania and North American legs of their debut headlining tour with tour dates set for April to July 2011.[39][40] should be: One Direction have announced Oceania and North American legs of their debut headlining tour with tour dates set for April to July 2012.[39][40]

86.8.68.240 (talk) 18:44, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * By User:Unreal7 19:06, 29 March 2012. Dru of Id (talk) 01:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

"Image" Section
In the middle of the Image Section, there's some very specific (and, seemingly, transient) numbers on Google hits and twitter followers. Is this germane to the article? It seems very odd in context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegeniusboy05 (talk • contribs) 04:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Holmes Chapel bakery
You can't see the bakery itself in that picture. Those are just some houses - following the path around to the left leads to the back of the bakery, but it's not in shot in that photograph. 86.151.231.147 (talk) 16:54, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 April 2012
harry was 2000 june the 9th 174.91.68.95 (talk) 00:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Source?--5 albert square (talk) 00:09, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Niall Horan biography info
As it is stated on wikipedia about niall's family it is wrong. He has a younger sister named Jaime who has just turned 18 on february 9th. She still lives in Ireland because she is finishing up her last year of highschool — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.67.194.127 (talk) 00:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Niall Horan doesn't have any sisters. He has a brother though O.o YOU ARE GIVING OUT FALSE INFORMATION. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.21.39.49 (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Completely Wrong: One Direction is a US Band?
Shouldn't this article be about One Direction (the band?). Well I think this article is a case of mistaken identity. One Direction is a current US based band. It is comprised of: - SEAN O'LEARY - LEAD SINGER, PIANIST - ISAIAH CHAVEZ-PICKETT - LEAD GUITAR - SCOTT NAGAREDA - BASS GUITAR - ADAM DAVIS - DRUMS I don't understand where this 'One Direction' this article talks about comes from or their significance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.144.141.174 (talk) 13:42, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing your comment is meant to be sarcastic. This article is about the notable UK band, not the non-notable US band. If you are being genuine, have a look for One Direction on Google News. – anemone projectors – 14:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * See also Articles for deletion/One Direction (American band). – anemone projectors – 14:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 April 2012
Can someone please change Harrys name form Harold "Harry" Edward Styles to just Harry Edward Styles his name is not and has never been Harold there is proof their biography Dare to Dream (which they wrote themselves) states that Harrys name is only Harry its says nothing about his name being Harold!!!

Jinelle 19 (talk) 21:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * His name is officially Harold Edward.--XDITZRACHEL (talk) 22:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 April 2012
The second sentence of the article, "They signed to Simon Cowell's record label Syco Records[1] after being formed and placing third in the seventh series of The X Factor." has a grammatical error, and should be fixed to: "They sung to Simon Cowell's record label Syco Records[1] after being formed and placing third in the seventh series of The X Factor." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gravitybender (talk • contribs) 01:34, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It isn't a graphical error, they were signed to syco, you don't sing to syco.--XDITZRACHEL (talk) 22:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Harry Styles
Zayn Malik, Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Liam Payne, and Louis Tomlinson all need to have their own individual page because they are very famous and are even more famous than the people who have been in the fame for years. The Harry Styles/Caroline Flack controversy should be added. The boys should have their own pages now - they are famous enough! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.142.162.114 (talk) 04:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC) he was born june 9th 2000l deny that anything is going on. If we create a separate article for Styles, and we can shore up enough solid info, then something about the pair may be written. — Andrew s talk  05:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC) There is lots of information about one direction on the internet, in their books and in all sorts of things. They should have their own pages because each individual band member has lots of fans, everyone has a favorite and by using individual pages, the fans will get their information from wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stylesgirl3332 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

They definitely need their own pages, also Liam is dating Danielle Peazer, a dancer and Louis is dating Eleanor Calder. These are all confirmed by them + there are photos etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upallnightwithoned (talk • contribs) 07:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Harry stil lives with Louis Tomlinson - confirmed in an interview in New Zealand in mid April 2012. Screenager72 (talk) 17:50, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Harry's birthday is February 1, 1994 not February 2, 1994 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.235.180 (talk) 17:54, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Malik
A trustworthy source has been found for Maliks' middle, birth name @Ancestry.com here is the source
 * it is him as his mother last (maiden) name: Brannan(her maiden name is already sourced on his bio) is given under his birth name
 * the birth index is in his birth year
 * everyone has been speculating and saying jawaad or javadd so searched under and Zain Javadd Malik with as extra his mother maiden name: Brannan it can't be anyone else
 * here is the source: Zain Javadd Malik at Ancestry.uk
 * You can click for more info on him (birth place and stuff) but then you pay money via credit card

So his real official birth name is : Zain Javadd Malik based on the UK trustworthy archive and not the untrustworty sites like: twitter,facebook,tumblr,fanwebsites. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Styles
here is styles data with his mothers maiden name given he was born in Worcestershire like capital fm source stated Harry Edward Styles at Ancestry.com

his name birth name is: Harry Edward Styles --- no Harold after all

Payne
here is his source birth location is West Midlands like our source in his bio Liam James Payne at ancestry.com

Editing Request: 13 May 2012
Can we have a part about Paul Higgins in the article. He is the tour manager for the band and many Directioners will agree this needs to be added. Also possibly a paragraph about Baby Lux and Josh Devine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecolectic (talk • contribs) 22:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but since when is a band's tour manager considered a relevant individual for an encyclopedia article about that band?Would Higgins be considering notable, on his own? My initial answer would be no. Striker force Talk  Review me! 02:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

excessive gushing removed, unfortunately restored
I tried to eliminate the accumulation of fan trivia in the article, but, unfortunately, my edit was immediately reverted without discussion. Apparently, some editors feel that information about tattoos, baby carriages, and teen girlfriends is crucial to our understanding of the band. Personally, I'd rather get rid of the Tiger Beat feel to the article and return to being an encyclopedia.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:21, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Isn't tiger beat filled with gossip and speculation unlike the sections. th epart about malik as a child gives more background and detail of him, relationships should stay as relationships are always cited see Taylor Swift - Katy Perry just because their teens you don't add it Payne as been in relationship for almost 2 years now. Influences should stay period, see Madonna, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga why would you remove that -- it is all sourced and the tattoos Rihanna's article cites it why cant his section cite it AdabowtheSecond (talk) 19:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's full of gossip, such as detailed listings of tattoos and excitement over romantic involvement. None of these things is particularly meaningful in the context of an article about the band. The sourcing for these events is generally from very fannish sources as well. It demeans the article to include it.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * kww yes i think the article shoud about the band like the take that, coldplay, the beatles articles but they do not individual article therefore i think its okay to document AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have removed some of the redundant and unnecessary information. I would consider "disruptive editing" if the edits are reverted. This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. Till 08:14, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Till for helping the section looks better now much appreciated sometimes its like i'm the only one editing their pages anywho thanks, it should stay like this AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request 17 May 2012
178.85.50.63 (talk) 18:54, 17 May 2012 (UTC)The photo of One Direction at the 54th Logies Awards should be replaced by an other photo, at the BRIT awards for example, because Harry Styles stands out on the photo, because of his blue bazer. It looks like he is the "frontman".


 * Er zijn geen vrije copyright photos voor de brit awards de photo van de logie awards is de beste photo van 1D die wikipedia's photo opslag plaats heeft. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 20:18, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The December 4th Jingle Bell Ball Arrivals then? Or the November 30th The Dome 60 Arrivals? Or the March 31st Nickelodeon's 25th Annual Kids' Choice Awards Arrivals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.85.50.63 (talk) 09:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * allemaal zijn ze niet vrije photos (kan je echt Nls want ik zit grapjes te maken). This is wikipedia's free image respiratory for one direcction these are the free images wikipedia maintains of the band; Commons One Direction AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Individual pages
Shouldn't all five members have individual pages by now? They are certainly notable enough. Even the Jonas Brothers have three pages. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 06:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Every time it has happened, they have been deleted by consensus. They are not notable as individuals, only as part of the group. – anemone projectors – 13:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This makes no sense. Surely we can agree that Harry Styles is one of the most notable teenagers on the planet at the moment? Certainly more so than about 99% of the people born during and after 1992 for whom we do have entries? I am not necessarily saying they all should get entries (though I think they should), but Styles, who gets so much media coverage, seems pretty obvious. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 18:40, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No, because he hasn't done anything notable enough outside of the group. If they should ever have solo careers then yes maybe we can consider his own page then, but until then no.--5 albert square (talk) 21:42, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The thing about the Jonas Brothers is that they've gone onto to do separate/solo projects. I don't believe the members of One Direction have done anything else outside the band, so I think WP:1E would apply here. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you saying that Harry Styles is less notable than Patrick Aaltonen, Godwin Ababaki, and Nigina Abduraimova? Those are the first three matches in Category:1994 births. I find it impossible to believe that the answer is "Yes". The Jonas Brothers had separate entries long before they did anything outside of their band. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 06:54, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Can I get an amen styles and others are more notable big time rush, maroon 5, coldplay (except for adam levine and chris martin) members they all have individual pages BTW - they are way more popular than all of those mentioned can you even cite their names (i can't), they don't have instant media coverage every single day - one direction members have been victim of being so popular in individual page kind of way because how the hell can big time rush members get their they have not any work outside big time rush - wikipedia in my opinion should work on their guidelines AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:33, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You are 100% right. But it's not gonna happen. Unreal7 (talk) 23:56, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Big Time Rush member Kendall was in a band prior and James was on iCarly among other things. I know this just off the top of my head. Only Harry would receive one IF White Eskimo did something significant prior to him leaving for X-Factor. We have agreed that we cannot create individual pages until they individually do something outside of the band. Trenton Davis (talk) 20:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Example articles are modeled after Chris Martin's page
Harold Edward "Harry" Styles born on February 1, 1994 is a English singer, who is the vocalist of the boy band One Direction.


 * Early life
 * Music Career
 * The X Factor
 * One Direction
 * Influences
 * Personal life
 * Filmography
 * Television
 * Discography
 * See also
 * References
 * External links

Harold Edward "Harry" Styles (born 1 February 1994, in Evesham, Worcestershire), is from village Holmes Chapel, Cheshire, England and a former pupil at Holmes Chapel Comprehensive School, a state comprehensive school. Born to mother Anne and father Des, he has an older sister, Gemma, he was seven when their parents divorced; his mother later remarried to Robin Twist. Regarding his parents divorce he said, "that was quite a weird time. I remember crying about it. I didn’t really get what was going on properly, I was just sad that my parents wouldn't be together any more." Following the divorce, Styles, his older sister and his mother moved further out into the Cheshire countryside. He said he had his first "actual girlfriend" when he was 12. At the age of 12 he moved back to Holmes Chapel. That was when his mother met his step dad Robin Twist. Styles said he was "really pleased" when Twist proposed to his mother.
 * ===Early life===

As a child he loved singing, noting Elvis Presley and The Beatles as his influences. Styles was the lead singer for the band White Eskimo with band members lead guitarist Haydn Morris, bass guitarist Nick Clough and drummer Will Sweeny. They had once entered a local Battle of the Bands, which they won.

In 2010, Styles auditioned for The X Factor with "Isn't She Lovely", receiving positive comments from two of the three judges, with Louis Walsh having doubts on whether he was ready to progress in the competition. At boot camp, he sang "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" before being rejected and put into One Direction.
 * ===Music career===
 * ====The X Factor====

Styles came up with band name One Direction, because he thought it would sound good when X Factor announcer Peter Dickson read their name out on the live shows. Louis Tomlinson added "Harry texted us to ask what we thought and it was one of those were we all just said, 'Yes' straight away. We all entered the competition with one thing in mind and that was to go to the top, so it worked. And it can be abbreviated to 1D!" Styles said that The X Factor gave him a lot more confidence.
 * ====One Direction====

After the final of seventh series of The X Factor member Zayn Malik said, that One Direction "would definitely continue on as a band". Styles, Malik, Louis Tomlinson, Niall Horan and Liam Payne signed a record deal with Syco Records. On being signed Styles said: On being signed Styles said: "We wanted to win and coming third was a big disappointment. So to find out we were signed was incredible. Simon Cowell was telling you your life was about to change! It was weird. Coming from our first audition to being signed by Syco is a huge journey". The band has had international fame and success, releasing their debut album Up All Night, in 2011.

As a child he loved singing, noting Elvis Presley as one of his influences. He cites the artist for his musical beginnings. "The first song I knew all the words to was Girl Of My Best Friend by Elvis. My dad introduced me to his music and when I got given a karaoke machine, I recorded a load of Elvis tracks." Styles also cites more current music by Foster the People, Coldplay and Kings of Leon. "We want to have a little bit heavier guitars, bigger drums, more of a live feel, because that’s what we like doing," Styles says for their next album, though he says that shouldn’t be misinterpreted to mean the group is going “grungier". Because we are 18 years old, it's important that we like what we’re doing as well,: says Styles. "It wouldn’t be good if we weren’t enjoying what we’re doing, and we are." Styles says that he often looks to Coldplay front man Chris Martin for inspiration when performing on stage.
 * ===Influences===

Styles also states that The Beatles had a profound influence on him growing up, his father would play their music. "I still listen to their music over and over again. "They are absolute icons and an inspiration", he says.

Styles states that he likes being naked, citing it as "very liberating, I feel so free." Styles briefly dated English television presenter Caroline Flack, which caused widespread media controversy over their fifteen year age gap.
 * ===Personal life===

Styles currently resides with band member Louis Tomlinson in North London. Due to his friendship with Tomlinson, they are to referred to the portmanteau "Larry Stylinson" by their fans. Styles spoke to Vevo lift on the latter saying, "the fans call me and Louis Larry Stylinson.. because we get on so well. Since we started at the X Factor house, me and Louis had always said that we wanted to move in together. And that was pretty much it. It just sort of happened." Styles is also good friends with recording artist Ed Sheeran. They are compared with many kpop groups such as big bang and shinee. But we all know that big bang and shinee are a lot more talented, handsome, and sexy. ♥ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.25.100.135 (talk) 03:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)


 * ===Filmography===
 * ====Television====


 * ===Discography===
 * See One Direction discography for his work with said group.


 * ===See also===
 * One Direction
 * Holmes Chapel


 * ===References===


 * ===External links===


 * One Direction.com

Liam James Payne born on August 29, 1993 is an English singer, who is the vocalist of the boy band One Direction.


 * Early life
 * Music Career
 * The X Factor
 * One Direction
 * Influences
 * Personal life
 * Filmography
 * Television
 * Discography
 * See also
 * References
 * External links

Liam James Payne (born 29 August 1993), is from Wolverhampton, West Midlands, England, born three weeks early to mother Karen and father Geoff, he has two older sisters, Ruth and Nicola.
 * ===Early life===

Until the age of four Payne had regular tests done in hospital, doctors noticed one of his kidneys was scarred and dysfunctional, to help cope with the pain he had 32 injections in his arm in the morning and evening as a child.

He described himself as a "naughty boy at school", at school he tried for teams, eventually trying out for the cross-country team, coming first "From then on I was training all the time and getting up at 6am to run for miles. At the age of 12 they put me in the school's under-18s team." Payne was bullied in school and took up boxing lessons, saying he "needed to find a way to defend myself, I was, at 12 years old, fighting the 38-year-old trainer. I broke my nose, had a perforated eardrum and I was always coming home with a bruised, puffy face. But it gave me confidence. I got pretty good over the next couple of years." He was a music technology student at City of Wolverhampton College.

Payne had auditioned in 2008 to The X Factors fifth series when he was fourteen. He reached judges' houses, however, Simon Cowell thought he was not ready for the competition and asked him to come back in two years. In 2010, Payne came back and auditioned again singing "Cry Me a River", receiving a standing ovation from the audience and Simon Cowell. At boot camp, he sang "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" before being rejected and put into One Direction. On the experience, Payne says: "Normally when you put together a band they have some time to go away and do development but we had to do that on a live competition, in front of 20 million people. If you make a mistake in front of an audience like that, you get voted out. We had no room for error whatsoever. We had to grow up very, very fast."
 * ===Music career===
 * ====The X Factor====


 * ====One Direction====

After the final of seventh series of The X Factor band member Zayn Malik said, they would definitely continue on as a band. Payne, Malik, Niall Horan, Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson signed a record deal with Syco Records. The band have had international fame and success, releasing their debut album Up All Night, in 2011.

He cites Justin Timberlake as a "major influence". Payne revealed that he would choose the vocal abilities of Timberlake, if he could change his vocals voice. He as well as other members of One Direction further notes artists such as Bruno Mars, as a "dream collaborator". Payne says he draws inspiration from Take That member Gary Barlow when performing.
 * ===Influences===

Regarding his one functional kidney Payne said, "I have to be careful not to drink too much, even water, and I have to keep myself as healthy as possible." Payne is currently in a relationship with dancer, Danielle Peazer. They met on the X Factor in 2010. Peazer and Payne have been a relationship ever since. The backing dancer for The Saturdays and Jessie J has received death threats and other forms of cyber bullying on social networking site Twitter, due to her relationship with Payne. He referred to it saying, "I think its horrible how people can such nasty things and not even think of how it effects people". In an interview with Now Magazine, Payne said "Danielle's amazing, All the boys love her - in a friendly way. Lately I've been able to spend a lot of time with her. It's hard when we go away, but she's so good about everything." On settling down Payne said, "If possible, with Danielle".
 * ===Personal life===


 * ===Filmography===
 * ====Television====


 * ===Discography===
 * See One Direction discography for his work with said group.


 * ===See also===
 * One Direction


 * ===References===


 * ===External links===


 * One Direction.com
 * Liam Payne.com

Louis William Tomlinson born on December 24, 1991 is an English singer, who is vocalist of the boy band One Direction.


 * Early life
 * Music Career
 * The X Factor
 * One Direction
 * Influences
 * Personal life
 * Filmography
 * Television
 * Discography
 * See also
 * References
 * External links

Louis William Tomlinson (born 24 December 1991, ) is from Doncaster, South Yorkshire, England, born to mother Johanna and father Mark he has four younger sisters: Charlotte, Félicité, and twins Daisy and Phoebe.
 * ===Early life===

He said growing up he always wanted a little brother, but having four younger sisters growing up taught him about woman. He added, "having that many sisters has definitely helped me with children too, people always comment on how comfortable I am around kids. I absolutely love babies and kids." He also revealed that he went through a "seriously dodgy clothes phase when I was about 13. I used to wear jeans and England shirts and looked a proper chav." Daisy and Phoebe had roles as babies on a show called Fat Friends, he would go along and serve as an extra, after Fat Friends he attended an acting school in Barnsley. He had small parts in an ITV1 drama called If I Had You, and BBC's Waterloo Road

He was a sixth form student at Hall Cross School, a state comprehensive school, and a former pupil of the Hayfield School. He revealed that he failed his first year of A levels at the Hayfield School, "mainly because I’d been too busy having fun. I was out all the time in that first year". He ended up going back to Hall Cross and started A levels over again. As a student at Hall Cross, Tomlinson starred in several musical productions.

In 2010, Tomlinson auditioned as solo candidate for the seventh series of The X Factor. Tomlinson auditioned for The X Factor with the song "Hey There Delilah", receiving votes from all three judges. At bootcamp, he sang "Make You Feel My Love" before being rejected and put into One Direction. Regarding his time on The X Factor he said, "We were given five minutes to make up our mind and we all said 'Do you want to do it?', everyone said yeah, and that was it. There was no question, go home as a solo or stay in as a group'. "We were gutted when we didn't win. But then we just started to reflect on it and we thought, we were the last group there, the youngest in the competition, and we didn't even know each other months ago. And when you look at it like that, we did really well. Some people say X Factor's an easy ride and a queue jump to fame. But we came from nothing, and had no experience as a group at all. And for me, by the time we came to the end of the show, we were a completely different group. We worked so hard, and achieved so much."
 * ===Music career===
 * ====The X Factor====
 * ====One Direction====

After the final of seventh series of The X Factor member Zayn Malik said, that One Direction "would definitely continue on as a band". Tomlinson, Malik, Harry Styles, Niall Horan and Liam Payne signed a record deal with Syco Records. The band has had international fame and success, releasing their debut album Up All Night, in 2011.

On choosing to audition for The X Factor, he cited his lead role in an high school production of Grease. He cites English recording artist and Take That member Robbie Williams as one of his "major influences". He said that Williams was his idol growing up. In an interview with Now Magazine he said he was starstruck when he met Williams in 2010 on The X Factor. "I've always loved Robbie. "He's just so cheeky, he can get away with anything. His performances are unbelievable. We met a lot of celebrities on The X Factor and he was one of the nicest." He also cites Ed Sheeran, describing the artist as "phenomenal". He as well as other members of One Direction further notes artists such as Bruno Mars, as a "dream collaborator". In an interview he cited pop superstar Michael Jackson as a "real inspiration" saying, "I am a big Michael Jackson fan. He was a real inspiration and had so many great songs."
 * ===Influences===

Tomlinson currently resides with band member Harry Styles in North London. Due to his friendship with Styles, they are to referred to the portmanteau "Larry Stylinson" by their fans. Styles spoke to Vevo lift on the latter saying, "the fans call me and Louis Larry Stylinson.. because we get on so well. Since we started at the X Factor house, me and Louis had always said that we wanted to move in together. And that was pretty much it. It just sort of happened."
 * ===Personal life===

Tomlinson is currently in a relationship with Hollister model and Manchester University student Eleanor Calder. According to The Sun, Styles set them up to date. In 2011, Tomlinson told of his heartbreak after his parents Johanna and Mark announced they were getting a divorce.


 * ===Filmography===
 * ====Television====


 * ===Discography===
 * See One Direction discography for his work with said group.


 * ===See also===
 * One Direction
 * Hall Cross School


 * ===References===


 * ===External links===


 * One Direction.com
 * Louis Tomlinson on Youtube

Edit request on 21 May 2012
please add to the Niall Horan portion that he is currently dating a girl named Salem from Texas. This is a not a rumor.

Skeleta 1D (talk) 01:59, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Not without a reliable source.&mdash;Kww(talk) 02:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 May 2012
please change source, number 133 from, to --89.249.2.53 (talk) 11:44, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dru of Id (talk) 17:02, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Total records sale worldwide
one direction have sold over 4.2 million records worldwide according to http://www.musicreview.co.za/2012/03/23/one-direction-become-first-british-group-to-debut-at-1-in-the-us-with-debut-album/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anasrana9 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have also seen this estimate on various other websites however their Up All Night (One Direction album) lead up to about 1,5million sales/shipments. I don't know though what are associated as really reliable sources for worldwide sales? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Links
All the external links really relevant? --89.249.2.53 (talk) 12:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * be more on the point are you referring to references which lead to external websites- after every sentence[23] Is that what you mean. Or is it One Direction because other article cite them to like Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga. Why are they not relevant; it makes it easier for editors to find info AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree. I think we can leave the official site, facebook, twitter, and IMDB but the rest could be removed. I think. Krystaleen (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

One Direction
It was stated that Harry and Louis don't live together anymore. Harry bought a flat, and Louis bought a house. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peace0508 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have removed them living together AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:23, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Nothing has been officially said but either way them living together is not important. Trenton Davis 23:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trentond (talk • contribs)

Edit request on 13 June 2012
It has some wrong information. It spelt Zayn's middle name 'Javadd'. Correctly, it is 'Jawaad' by birth and changed to 'Jahaad'. Thank you for your consideration.Macey.Horan (talk) 17:34, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You are the 564985649085 request saying the same thing.
 * 1. you have not provided a reliable source (twitter, facebook, fanfictions, fanwebsites, youtube, tumblr, books are NOT reliable sources)
 * 2. his middle name has always been of speculation and someone once just said its "jawaad" and people like you just have ingrained so far deep in to your brain (without actually having a reliable source or confirmation from his family or zayn himself)
 * 3. All the birth names are sourced with external sources from uk ancestry archives. so no wikipedia is not changing his middle name


 * hope to have helped you AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: AdabowtheSecond is correct: you need to provide a reliable source. Just to clarify two points, however: books are by no means unreliable sources, and ancestry sites are not necessarily reliable sources. Rivertorch (talk) 19:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * i don't like the use of books since its not really verifiable; its more okay if it was coming from a established user used it to source but teenpoper who never actually opened said book. just using it to get the info they want added AdabowtheSecond (talk) 20:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Zayn Malik - Muslim; should it be added
so according to this article - Zayn Malik's arabic/muslim tweet (which already has been deleted by their managment i guess) - caused quite a stir should the content of aforementioned article be mentioned in his biography section (One Direction). Thoughts? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 14:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The tweet was done in 2011, not 2012; he also retweeted several tweets written in Urdu in 2011, and Ramadan greetings. Tomlinson also tweeted in 2010 about celebrating Eid with Malik during the X Factor.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aimmyarrowshigh (talk • contribs) 14:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have adjusted it AdabowtheSecond (talk) 17:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Disreputable sourcing used in uncited change 13 June 2012
Neither Styles nor Tomlinson has confirmed the purchase of houses and the "newspapers" that propagated the information are tabloids only (the Sun and the Daily Mail), both of which have given false information on both men numerous times. As of early June 2012, both Tomlinson and Styles verbally say in radio interviews they still live together. The information should be reinstated until either Styles, Tomlinson, One Direction's management, or more reputable sources give confirmation of the split. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aimmyarrowshigh (talk • contribs) 14:08, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Because of the reports we have removed them living together - but because they have not confirmed that they bought said houses we have not added that they bought houses simple as that AdabowtheSecond (talk) 17:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qztfl9ILOA4 <-- Citation for them talking about still sharing an apartment, dated late May 2012. They still live together and it should be added back!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aimmyarrowshigh (talk • contribs) 10:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Since the video is not rightfully in possesion of that account we can't use it to source AdabowtheSecond (talk) 11:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the full-length rip of an audio interview of Louis Tomlinson speaking, himself as the source, to information that he and Styles still live together. Cite the radio station that did the interview, I suppose, but they did not provide an official audio link on their website.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aimmyarrowshigh (talk • contribs) 14:08, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No we can't source it this way AdabowtheSecond (talk) 19:54, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request June 22nd
Teen Choice Awards should be included as pending awards, since the voting has begun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.22.23 (talk) 00:06, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * here is the table add it, and i'll copy paste (y) AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:18, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Couldn't quite figure out how the table worked, but it's:One Direction
 * Teen Choice Awards- Music Star Group
 * Teen Choice Awards- "What Makes You Beautiful" - Love Song One Direction
 * Teen Choice Awards - Breakout Group
 * Response=here i made their List of awards and nominations received by One Direction today its listed ciao AdabowtheSecond (talk) 14:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 June 2012
There is no title for link number 3 in Note 150, about Malik's relationship with Edwards.--89.249.2.53 (talk) 07:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Fixed. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 July 2012
Change the name in the Styles section on him from Harry Edward Styles to Harry Edward "Harold" Styles. I, is dne perception of Styles nickname Harold is as well known as Malik's nickname Zayn.--109.232.72.49 (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * We have sources for both names - do you have a reliable source for his supposed birth name. Twitter, facebook, fanfictions, fanwebsites, youtube, and finally tumblr are not reliable sources. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:56, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Would you a link or a news article where he specifically referred to as Harry "Harold" Styles.?--109.232.72.49 (talk) 18:57, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You need a link stemming from websites like MTV, Digital Spy, Mail Online, Capital FM, Music Week which states that his birth name is Harold not Harry. Wikipedia does not permit Original research. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 20:43, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait you just want Wikipedia to add a nickname, that is irrelevant, in zayn case everyone refers to him as zayn and not zain in the media, which is not the case with harry-harold at all AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 July 2012
2010

Abbey909 (talk) 10:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That isn't a request. It's a number.&mdash;Kww(talk) 10:59, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

X Factor/Forming
I think it's better to have a separate section for that. It doesn't matter that it only lasted one year, fact is it's a separate era from "Up All Night, touring and breakthrough". Not to mention that section is so huge now it's practically unreadable.-- Krystaleen 06:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

i'm planning to re struct AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Versions:
 * 1
 * 2

The second version is better and yes 1 year does make a difference, sub-sections should not be handed out to one year. For example see Britney Spears page they list for example two albums in the same sub-section even though its not the same era In the Zone was a complete different direction and musical style then Britney (album), it marked Spears taking creative control and breaking away from her previous work that doesn't mean they should have different subsections. The X Factor bit is only one paragraph. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I like this one better http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=One_Direction&oldid=502062419 but the "2010–12: Up All Night, touring and breakthrough" should be "2011-12" I think because it started in January 2011 not 2010. Oh and I'm not aware of any rule that says sub-sections should not be handed out to one year, can you point me to it? That Britney page isn't the best example imo. Those are two different albums but similar era. XFactor and a debut album is very different and very significant.--  Krystaleen  15:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you see ever a sub-section for only one year no, a subsection should cover various years. I never said it was a guideline or rule. I'm giving my opinion just like you are now. The X Factor bit is so short. An era "refers to a long period of history." One year is not long 3 years is. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, the way you said it made it seem like you were taking it from a rule. But yes there are articles with a section with just one year, look here for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_West or this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Poppin%27_Daddies#Soul_Caddy_.282000.29 what I'm saying is that the forming/early beginning of the band is almost always a separate era, and especially in this case it's the X Factor, it's an entirely separate era from debut album after they've left the show and not to mention the section is too big now. Why lump everything together if you can break them apart appropriately?--  Krystaleen  03:57, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have reformatted AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks much better now, nice job!--  Krystaleen  15:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

2012-present
2012-present because with only 2012 they could have stopped working thats why 2012-present AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You're wrong. "-present" refers to the year the section is about.  Statυs (talk) 21:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's still 2012. 2012 is the present. It's not the past and it is not the future. It is the present. And since Wikipedia is not a CRYSTALBALL, "2012–present" violates such thing. If they stop working, it's still 2012. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 21:48, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * An editor once told me about this how why -present should always be there, I remember it made sense I can't put my finger on what the user told me, anyway okay just 2012. Regards AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)