Talk:Oni (video game)

Name selection
In Japanese mythology, Oni are strong, human-like demons that punish evil-doers, just as a hyper-evolving Konoko is eliminating the Syndicate in the game. Moreover, in Japanese language, "it" in a game of tag is called "Oni" instead; this is especially fitting because a majority of the game consits of Konoko chasing down various characters that are fleeing specifically from her (Muro, Mukade, Griffin etc). I think this is noteworthy information, though I don't know if it actually played a role in the selection of the game's name.

good point, but the fact that Konoko is transformed into an alter ego- if you will - of a human, that is to say superhuman, the word demon, and therefore Oni springs to mind. However it could be a compliation of multiple refernces to culture, history and even gaming. LastmanSAC 02:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Oni 2
Check out ONi2; a division of wikipedia if you want bios. lastmanSAC

actually, it might be called Oni Galore, i'll have to check up on it LastmanSAC

Character Bios
It would be neat to see the biographies of the characters and their general attitudes towards the world. Konoko is definately a rebel. -Slayemin

POV!
The Gameplay and features section of this article is a POV promotional mess. I removed the weapons (which read like it came straight out of the game's manual) and am attempting to rework the entire section. --C-squared 01:35, August 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to agree. This game was an absolute mess and received harsh condemnation from most critical outlets. Yet, this entry continues to read like a promotional ad, with mentions of "unique" and "smooth" gameplay. --AWF


 * I agree with promotional thingy, but the game a mess? That is an misconception made through ignorance of the elements that make games up.

LastmanSAC 02:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * "Harsh condemnation"? Do you have a source for that? Sure, it didn't get amazing reviews like this page may imply, but the reviews were respectable and above-average overall. Oni on Metacritic

Weaopns lists? Promotional ads? Smooth Graphics? The best part of the damn game is the stroyline. Hell the graphics are terrible but it's the core ideas and philosophy that really matter, but if your just a blood thirsty gamer whose only interested in Konoko's bust and the guns...well then the game isn't worth a cent. lastmanSAC


 * Actually, considering the time of the game's release, the graphics are pretty good

Cheats
Cheats are enabled either by completing the entire game or editing the persist.dat file, with hex editor. Before proceeding, make a backup copy of 'persist.dat' - without it your game will not function and you can really screw things up if you don't do this properly.

Open 'persist.dat' with your favorite hex editor. It should be located in the directory where you installed Oni (c:\program files\oni by default).

Go to hexadecimal Offset 44 - the value should either be '02' or '06'. Change this value to '07'. Save and close the file.

Some but not all cheats:

Liveforever - Mai Hasegava/Konoko is immortal

superammo - endless ammo, if you take empty weapon or weapon with partial used ammo, it reloads itself to full ammo

Roughjustice - makes weapons to fire faster, much faster

shapeshifter - change your player with the characters seen in the level. When you change the player, you got not only the looks, but also his/her's moves, voice, cues

glassworld - background equpment - containers, computers, boxes, etc are made of glass. If you punch or kick these parts, nothing happens but if you shoot it will schatter into pieces. The power of the weapon affects how the glass is schattered.

Touchofgod - kill your opponent with one hit/shot

Lastmanstanding - the characters controlled by the AI fight each other, and usually only one survives, and konoko/mai hasegawa fights this character.

Network
I remember reading a long time ago that the game's networking functions were scrapped because of something to do with bandwidth or synchronization. I think it was mentioned in MacAddict, but I'm not sure which issue. The demo ships with #56, so it could be anywhere up to or just a little past there. Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 14:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Year game takes place
The first words of my manual are: "It's 2032 and the world isn't what it used to be."

Surly proof, if proof be need be, that the game does take place in 2032, no?

22:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC) -GWW

Yo, there is proof that the game takes place in 2032, yet logic inclines that from the time a government is formed...to when it assumes toal control...to when cracks start to appear in its domestic control of crime...surely takes more then a few months? Besides Play the game more! If you talk to people later on in the game it all becomes clear...Get back to me on this whoever wrote this.

LasmanSAC

Spoiler warning
Shouldn't someone put a spolier tag on the storyline part? --Short stop 09:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Spoiler warnings are only needed where plot elements appear where people wouldn't expect them, that a plot synopsis contains informations on the plot should be obvious to everyone.193.44.6.146 (talk) 13:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Rockstar?
Hey how come there was a ps2 port by Rockstar?
 * I don't think I understand the question. Presumably, somewhat thought they would make money off it. 07:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Bungie had already expressed interest in making PlayStation games before being acquired by Microsoft.

Why does the computer cover pictured in the article show the Rockstar logo, as Rockstar? only played a part in the making of the PS2 port, didn't theyLastmanSAC 02:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Storyline
In short, this section is way the heck too long.

Storyline sections should be breif synopsis. Christ anyone who reads all that could have played the game and gotten the information faster. I will be truncating this section severely if I have time in the next few days.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 11:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Philisophical concepts
should someone include this in the page, just curious....--LastmanSAC 03:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it would just be original research and cruft. --  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 22:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Oni PC screenshot.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Use in Halo Universe
As you know Bungie likes to put references to there older games into Halo. The same is true for ONI. In the Halo Universe ONI stands for "Office of Naval Intelligence". There are not mentioned in the games until the 3rd game, but they are heavely involved in the books. Gundam94 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.129.67.253 (talk) 20:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

If your point is that this should be included, okay. Find a source and a way to make it encyclopedic and I'll have no problem with it.Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Legacy and Legality
who destroyed these perfectly valid sections? there are so many noobs on Wikipedia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by LastmanSAC (talk • contribs) 03:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Reception?
Im interested in a section about how the game was recieved when it got out. In general the arcticle could also get som more "meat on its bones" to truly become a supreme article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.236.242.126 (talk) 05:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right, a Reception section would be nice. I'll add one now. --Iritscen (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, it might have room for improvement, but it's up. Unfortunately, it reads rather negatively for a game that is remembered fondly by many, and has an active fandom to this day. I guess it's just that reviewers are paid to be thorough in finding flaws in games, whereas many players could overlook the parts that weren't impressing them and focus on just the parts they liked. I'll leave it to someone else to decide whether the section leans too heavily on the criticism and not the crowd-pleasing aspects of the game. --Iritscen (talk) 14:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Removed crufty sections
This article had gotten to looking more like a FAQ than a WP article. WP articles don't need to list all the weapons in a game, all the characters, all the enemy types, available combat moves, and particularly not the names of levels. The goal in writing about a game should be to summarize the story and mention a little of the game mechanics, which it did admirably without the sections composed entirely of lists. The article has always had a tendency to deteriorate into cruft, so it's not the first time someone's had to cut it down. Apologies to anyone who spent time on those portions.

Such detailed information, and more, can be found on sites such as GameFAQs, not to mention the fact that the Oni fan community has given the game its own dedicated wiki (see links at bottom of article) where no detail is too small to be notable. Fans with an enthusiasm for the details are invited to consider whether their contributions would fit in an encyclopedia-style article like this one or the specialized pages of the fan wiki. --Iritscen (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Time of Oni's storyline
While it's true that the game manual says "It's 2032 and the world ain't what it used to be", the manual also states that the World Coalition Government absorbed most nations in January of 2032, and then goes on to say "In a matter of years all traces of the old governments faded away." So it's far from certain that Oni takes place in 2032. --Iritscen (talk) 16:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Infobox
In the Infobox, the "Platform(s)" field includes "PC". I think that the "Platform(s)" field should specify a value or values from the "Supported platforms" section of the Vgclegend template. For example, if Oni only runs on MS-DOS, then Oni's Infobox should specify "DOS" in the "Platform(s)" field. ProResearcher (talk) 12:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, I never noticed that, even as I edited the Mac side of the platforms in the infobox. Of course "PC" is not really a platform. Oni was released for "Windows 98/ME/2000" (source). I took a stab at a more proper listing of platforms, feel free to correct if you see fit. I also differentiated the two Mac platforms while I was at it; it's really an important distinction in this case, even though the Vgclegend apathetically lists simply "Mac" as a platform [edit: oops, actually there is "MAC" and "OSX"]. --Iritscen (talk) 00:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Release data and citations
This is a section for hashing out the details of Oni's release. I reverted some recently added details which were unsubstantiated by citations, only to see my revert then reverted by the editor as "vandalism". If the unnamed IP editor can supply backup for all the dates and region details, then certainly he has the right to add them. However, here is the information I am going on until I see something better: --Iritscen (talk) 16:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Release date: 1/29/01 (I am actually correcting this from the way the article always used to read, which was 1/28/01). Note that this is the date of simultaneous release on all 3 platforms, at least in North America (source). Again, if you have good sources for different release dates in Europe/Asia, please add references to the sources along with the dates.
 * Publisher: Take-Two Interactive. As the article linked to by the word "Publisher" in the infobox explains, a publisher is essentially the producer of the title. I don't know who MediaQuest is, but if their name is on the Japanese box, then they have to be a distributor, not a publisher. If we're listing distributors, we'll be here all day; for instance, there are at least two distributors of Oni for the Mac, MacSoft and Feral Interactive. But that's not what the Publisher field is for. There can only be one publisher for a video game, and in this case, Gathering of Developers and Rockstar were both owned by Take 2 at the time, as shown by the fine print on the back of the PS2 box HERE and the PC box HERE. Note that there is no mention of the GOD Games label at all, and that all copyrights go back to Take 2.
 * Media: CD-ROM. I see no reliable mention of a DVD release; the jackets all say "CD-ROM". Source: See cover images above.

Source

 * https://web.archive.org/web/20000422020741/http://pc.ign.com:80/news/5839.html
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20011119033650/http://www.feedmag.com/templates/videogame_article.php3?a_id=1619&page_num=1
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20020213224553/http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/depart/sep99/pa04.html