Talk:Ontario Highway 400/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Grondemar (talk · contribs) 18:18, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

This article is close to achieving Good Article status, but I have a few concerns that need to be addressed first:


 * Define acronyms as first usage: MTO. A wikilink might be appropriate as well.
 * "As the Sudbury segment of the new highway is discontinuous with the Highway 400 route, it will not be renumbered until the remainder of the construction is completed."
 * One or more citations are also needed in the Services section.
 * File:400 Woodbridge.png: I'm leaning toward this file needing a fair-use rationale because it is copyrighted in the US (even if it is not copyrighted in Canada), but I've asked User:J Milburn for a second opinion on this.


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I am placing this nomination on hold for a minimum of seven days to allow for the above concerns to be addressed.
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I am placing this nomination on hold for a minimum of seven days to allow for the above concerns to be addressed.
 * I am placing this nomination on hold for a minimum of seven days to allow for the above concerns to be addressed.

Thanks. –Grondemar 19:03, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Should be able to get to these in a few hours, but just wanted to let you know that the image is public domain in the US as well. All government produced photos in Canada become public domain after 50 years in every country, as that is the official policy for their copyright (crown copyright). -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  19:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, all the others are fixed as well. I gave the services section an expansion using content from Highway 401, since both are seeing their service centres upgraded. Cheers! -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  22:31, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Concerning the image: If it is now unambiguously PD in Canada (and I think stronger sourcing/author information would be needed here- I am assuming you did not take the photograph, Floydian?) but was not PD in Canada on 1 January 1996, then it may still be used on Commons, provided it has that tag. However, this may end up changing, as this is very much an exception to the rule that media must be PD in the US and the source country for Commons. So, if those few points can be established, it's alright for now, but far from ideal. As an aside, moving the content to the English Wikipedia will not solve this problem. (IANAL, I am making no effort to interpret US law, about which I know little, only WP/Commons policy.) J Milburn (talk) 00:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I took the image from a Department of Highway annual report. Anything produced by provincial or federal government falls under crown copyright, which falls under the Copyright Act. Under section 12 of the Copyright Act, the term of Crown copyright is "the remainder of the calendar year of the first publication of the work and for a period of fifty years following the end of that calendar year". This means the government, as the copyright holder, explicitly releases the material into the public domain after 50 years. URAA conditions don't apply in this case, as the image is public domain in the United States too. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  00:54, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * According to the description page this photo was taken in 1951. If the term of copyright is to the end of the year it was taken and then 50 years, it wouldn't be in the public domain until the end of 2012 if I'm doing the math right.  Unless I'm missing something, this image is still copyrighted and needs to be removed. –Grondemar 03:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope :) 2011-1951 is 60 years. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  05:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sigh. You're exactly right.  Thanks for addressing my concerns.  I will now  pass this Good Article Nomination.  Congratulations! –Grondemar 06:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)