Talk:Onyx

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Does anyone know if Black Onyx is super heavy in weight or heavy stone

Does anyone know how much Onyx is worth?

Black or not?
onyx is also an oldschool rap/hip hop group  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.114.112 (talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC) Onyx (disambiguation) says Onyx is a "black mineral", but that is not discussed on this page. In fact, on this page it says it can be "almost every color (not including ... black)."


 * The disambig page now says onyx is "banded" so I assume someone corrected it. However the article says: "'Onyx is a cryptocrystalline form of quartz. The colors of its bands range from white to almost every color (not including . . . black). . . . Sardonyx is a variant in which the colored bands are sard (shades of red) rather than black.'" If Sardonyx is a variant of onyx with red bands "rather than black" then that implies onyx has black bands, contradicting the previous sentence. 192.82.6.31 02:57, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have an onyx, wich is black, but this may be an impurity in the stone. 88.105.63.28 (talk) 13:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It is a bit confusing. See my comment below re: images of Onyx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ileanadu (talk • contribs) 03:46, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone know? This stone, and many others have been mentioned many times over in the Bible. I wonder if there is any significance of relating these stones to the twelve tribes of Jacob and what that significance is or what application can be drwan from that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.31.136 (talk) 07:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

id like to ask something about black onyx. from my childhood to this day, i see many big time people have a black onyx in their rings like alpachino, dillinger, johnny dep etc. what do represent black onyx? do onyx have a history about supernatural? i heard from the Chinese people where itself repels bad luck and etc. is it true? i'd love to hear from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.203.54.232 (talk) 13:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

you didnt mention that pakistan is the biggest exporter of onix, and that green onix was only found in argentina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.194.5.107 (talk) 22:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Quartz
Although some chalcedony contains some moganite, onyx and other chalcedonies are still chiefly cryptocrystalline quartz. That some moganite is present doesn't change that, and references still (and properly) tag onyx and other chalcedony materials as cryptocrystalline quartz. See Deer, William Alexander; Howie, R. A.; Wise W. S. 2004. Rock-Forming Minerals: Framework Silicates: Silica Minerals, Felspathoids, v. 4B, 2 ed. Bath, United Kingdom: The Geological Society Publishing House, pp. 62–64. ISBN 1-86239-144-0 for an explanation of the differences between macrocrystalline quartz, and cryptocrystalline and microcrystalline (fibrous) quartz. &bull; Astynax talk 22:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

August Birthstone
Sardonyx is the 11th stone on aaron's breastplate, which stands for the 11th tribe, or the tribe of Joseph. (Genesis 49; Exodus 28&39) It is also the August Birthstone, which under the current sidereal astrology System, is ruled by Leo and the Sun. Leo also governs the heart. This is important because in the "Opening of the mouth Ceremony"(Which is not at all literal but rather spiritual), whenever the pharaoh opens his mouth, he reveals his heart.

the "Sardonyx Seal" is important because it is an anagram for "Cylinder Seal". It also says "Zion", "Coin", "Sword and Shield", and "Leonardo", "Nicholas", "Necklace", "Exodus", "Enoch", and "Heart of the cards", "Ark", "Noah" "Ankh", "Alexander", "Crown", "Six", "Kiss", "Sacred", "Achilles", "Chakra", "Ka", "Chi", "Qi", "Orion", "Aries" "Castle", "Corona", "Aura", "Jordan", "Dragon", "Yeshua", "Wonderland", "Alice", "Crows", "Eli", "Israel", "Learn", "Lion", "Kalki", "Conch", "Shell", "Zen", "Rose", "Zero", "One", "Rain", "Deer", "Creation", "Narnia", "Aslan", "Oz", "Circle", "Snake", "Scale", "Disk", "Code", "Riddle", "Lord", "Sons" and plenty more words.

In Modern English Alchemy, this stone seal is more important than the emerald tablets. This may not be true in other languages however as it may not translate. Blazeitup52 (talk) 04:48, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

No image with basic color
The description of Onyx says,


 * Onyx comes through Latin (of the same spelling), from the Greek ὄνυξ, meaning "claw" or "fingernail". With its fleshtone color, onyx can be said to resemble a fingernail. The English word "nail" is cognate with the Greek word.[2]

Yet there's not a single image of a flesh tone mineral. The major image is of Sardonyx and there is another image with several stones of black onyx. I did a search and the most jewelry web sites state that Onyx is black or "a black and white banded variety of Agate." So, this is a somewhat confusing state of affairs. Ileanadu (talk) 03:44, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Image Problem
The image used on this article is also used on the Agate page, and given the descriptions on both pages seems as though it can't be an example of both simultaneously. "Agate and onyx are both varieties of layered chalcedony that differ only in the form of the bands: agate has curved bands and onyx has parallel bands." Agate page description "Banded agate (agate-like onyx); the specimen is 2.5 cm (1 inch) wide" Onyx page description "A slice of sardonyx (width = 2.5 cm)" Is this a mistake or not?NMLevesque (talk) 16:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the term is not a mineralogical definition, but rather a very old, and imprecise gemological and common usage to describe a pattern in what is just microcrystalline quartz. Many famous onyx and sardonyx pieces do not have anything like strictly parallel bands. The onyx famous for use in intaglio and cameo hardstone carvings does have more or less parallel banding. Moreover, and although a few authorities argue differently, not all agate has banding (moss, plume and other types of patterns, plus those in which banding is isolated in a tiny fraction of a given stone). It would be best to find a better reliably sourced definition that is inclusive of those that lie outside the horizontally bedded onyx type. &bull; Astynax talk 19:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Jahangir Throne?
The wiki page of Jahangir throne mentions that it is made of touchstone whereas here it is cited as an example of something made of black onyx. Are touchstones same as black onyx? 14.139.226.50 (talk) 06:45, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

The comment was posted by me. Just signing with login to get notifications about this thread. ag (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed it. Everything I can find says touchstone is a kind of sedimentary rock.-- Auric   talk  18:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Of note, the user who added it also added that the Throne was made from "black onyx, imported from Belgium", not exactly credible. -- Auric   talk  18:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

"parallel"
In the lead paragraph: "agate has curved bands while onyx has parallel bands."

Parallel does not mean "equidistant straight lines", it means "everywhere equidistant". But it would probably be best to just say "agate has curved bands while onyx has relatively straight ones." DCDuring (talk) 12:02, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @DCDuring Yes, considering this is even somewhat confusing and contradictory in regards to the main picture used for the article, I think it would help if we point out that it's not a very precise definition inherently 2601:580:C201:42E0:A121:6A3:803F:21F4 (talk) 04:00, 6 July 2024 (UTC)