Talk:Oopali Operajita

Content missing
I seem to have lost the entire page on Oopali Operajita while moving a sentence up to the education page. Could someone please help me restore the most current page? That would be the one at 5:26AM. Thank you. MarkRVS (talk) 08:52, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Earlier post
That page seems to be okay now. MarkRVS (talk) 09:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Connecting with a Senior Editor at wiki
I'd like to connect with a Senior Editor at Wiki. Should that not be possible, I'll connect with one of its owners. Thank you. MarkRVS (talk) 09:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * you can use Admin help on your own talk page if you need the attention of an administrator. You have already attracted the attention of one such administrator at your talk page, you can also address them directly. --Muhandes (talk) 14:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Reference #6
This is not a dead link. MarkRVS (talk) 09:38, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes this is a dead link, or at least this is how it appeared to me. However, I managed to save it though The Wayback Machine. --Muhandes (talk) 14:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * See comment below. You used the incorrect link which lead to this misunderstanding. --Muhandes (talk) 14:51, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Rediffmail.com
This leading and highly rated website as been dismissed by Mr Muhandes. Using his knowledge of websites in India, he deleted my insertion of Vivek Kudva in the Distinguished Alumni section on the Rishi Valley School page. Mr Kudva heads up a major section of Franklin Templeton which has assets in excess of $500 billion. I would be lead to believe that doesn't quite make the Distinguished grade for some folk. The rediffmail.com site establishes, indubitably, the connection between Mr Kudva and Rishi Valley.

Ditto with Suresh Narayanan, the Managing Director and CEO of Nestle, India. As well as Gopal Vittal, the CEO of Airtel, a world leader in mobile technologies. All of these names were deleted by Mr Muhandes.

Mr Muhandes's rhetoric, coupled with his swift deletion of much that I add, are incomprehensible. I cited the New York Public Library's comprehensive article on Oopali Operajita to verify certain facts in her bio. But he deleted that. Again, I wonder if the NYPL makes the grade as a source for Mr Muhandes? MarkRVS (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I advise you against ad hominem arguments, they will get you nowhere. Discuss the facts, not the one delivering them. As for your comments, please discuss other articles in their own talk page. For example, discuss matters pertaining to Rishi Valley School at Talk:Rishi Valley School. Finally, as for this article, I reverted quite a number of unsourced facts and I apologize if among them I accidentally reverted a well-sourced one. Feel free to re-introduce the well-sourced facts and I will try to be more careful. Remember that citation needs to come after each and every fact, you can't expect readers to search all around the article for the source. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Again, Muhandes, your tone. It's patiently bellicose. A "please" inserted somewhere would be on so civil. Are you threatening me? As a native speaker of English, my reading of your current post would lead me to believe as much.


 * As for "getting nowhere" - we've gotten everywhere, right from scratch! That's the luck of the draw. MarkRVS (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Patently bellicose; not patiently bellicose. MarkRVS (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * English is my third language, so obviously your's is much better than mine. Of course I am not threatening you, I am just saying ad hominem arguments are futile ("will get you nowhere"). --Muhandes (talk) 15:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Rishi Valley: Suresh Narayan, Oopali Operajita
Apropos of Suresh Narayanan, who alluded to Rishi Valley as being inspirational in his career, and whose name you saw fit to twice delete from the Rishi Valley page, Mr Muhandes, I do hope forbes.com is a worthy enough source for you; because here's a recent article on Mr Narayanan:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesasia/2018/01/17/when-it-comes-to-putting-out-fires-nestle-indias-suresh-narayanan-is-no-novice/amp/

You summarily - and repeatedly - delete Oopali Operajita's name from the Rishi Valley Distinguished Alumni section. When I cite the New York Public Library's article on her, citing the link between her and Rishi Valley, you swiftly delete it. May be you need to call her school and check with them about whether she's one of their most distinguished alumni or not? That's public knowledge.

The NYPL has, for decades, been home to scores of Hollywood and Broadway stars. As well, it has been a favourite with several American presidents. The write-up describes Oopali Operajita as a "virtuoso" - now, that probably is a hoakey source? Or is it? And what's in a virtuoso anyway? Nothing distinguished there. MarkRVS (talk) 15:56, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Again, this page is for discussing Oopali Operajita. If you wish to discuss Rishi Valley School, do so at Talk:Rishi Valley School. --Muhandes (talk) 16:29, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm reminded of Jonathan Swift here! The discussion is about Oopali Operajita at Rishi Valley School. So, if I used conventional logic 101, I'd say it fits right in here.


 * But it would be a good idea for your to connection with Rishi Valley and figure out where Oopali Operajita figures amongst their most distinguished alumni, of all time. Again, this might enlighten you, because you've ratcheded her name from that list over, and over, and over!


 * With a sense of determination that is quite intriguing! Lop, lop, lop off! MarkRVS (talk) 16:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * For you to connect with Rishi Valley School MarkRVS (talk) 16:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Rishi Valley: Shiavax Jal Vaxifdar
You also have deleted the name of Chief Justice Shiavax Jal Vaxifdar from Rishi Valley's list of Distinguished Alumni. Most articles on him state that he graduated from Rishi Valley in 1972; and I had cited one such source as well.

Or, Mr Muhandes, does a Chief Justice of one of India's leading High Courts not make it to this Distinguished Alumni list?? MarkRVS (talk) 17:06, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I feel like there is lack of communication here, so I will keep trying. Per WP:TALK, Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article. This is Talk:Oopali Operajita so discussions here are limited to how to improve the article Oopali Operajita. If you wish to discuss how to improve the article Rishi Valley School the place to do so is Talk:Rishi Valley School. I apologize if what you wrote above was aimed at improving the article Oopali Operajita and I misunderstood it. If this was the case, I suggest you start a new section and write your concrete suggestions again so they can be discussed. --Muhandes (talk) 17:31, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

6 is not a dead link and has never been
https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/english/news/2010/operajita-plays-key-role-in-indias-concert-for-obama.html

Please correct. MarkRVS (talk) 10:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The attempt to cast this as a dead link - when it demonstrably isn't - strikes me as suspicious. Carnegie Mellon is one of the inventors of the internet. Dead links, by definition, are anathema to such an institution. MarkRVS (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * This url here is not the one you used in the article. This is the one you used in the article and it is a dead link. Next time you throw accusations to the air, please check yourself. --Muhandes (talk) 14:25, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Getting on my case
There's all of the above, coupled with a tone which I can best describe as stentorian - you wonder why there isn't a smidgen of civility in the dialogue. It's offensive. MarkRVS (talk) 11:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have left you multiple messages on your talk page, starting with the most civil, and leading to the final warning, which you ignore, and which lead to your block. Have you bothered to start discussion earlier, there would have been no need for any of this. If at all, ignoring six attempts at discussion is offensive. --Muhandes (talk) 14:30, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Each time there is communication, the tone is belligerent. I'm not sure editing stuff at Wiki arms you with the licence to verge on the abusive. Or does it? Concomitantly, exactly how much do you know about a leading and valorized website such as rediffmail.com to summarily dismiss it?


 * The first principle of learning is to acknowledge that there's a humoungous amount that we don't know. Then we wouldn't be Racheding entries in an almost manic fashion!


 * At any rate, someone somewhere seems a little obsessed with tampering with my edits each time - in a vein I might only construe as pathological; and I will bring this to the attention of one of Wiki's owners.


 * The CMU link I entered was completely accurate and worked fine, both on its own and on the Wiki page. Thank you very much. MarkRVS (talk) 15:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Again, more ad hominem arguments, which I am not going to respond to. If you have any specific matter you wish to discuss about how to improve this article, I am at your service. --Muhandes (talk) 15:53, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Mine ain't ad hominem. Some of us have studied Argument at the Masters level! In English, French, Greek and Latin! MarkRVS (talk) 20:13, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Edits at Rishi Valley Wiki
@Muhandes - Not being able to edit at Wiki is not going to affect my career trajectory in any major way. But your obsession with deleting renowned Rishi Valley alumni's names actually causes harm to the school. A school is known for the distinction of its alumni. A little knowledge is a markedly dangerous thing - the world of top business leaders knows and admires Vivek Kudva and Suresh Narayanan - and I cited their strong connection with Rishi Valley, which they allude to in those particular articles - but they don't make the Muhandes grade, it would seem. These are such arbitrary and whimsical decisions.

It would be interesting to know how versed you are with the world of real, big business. Or, for that matter, with big business in India.

At any rate, my "conversation" with you comes to an end right here. I am bringing your repeated belligerent, aggressive and threatening actions to the notice of one of Wiki's owners.

Ad hominem or no ad hominem. Actually, HOMINEM!

Reading Pope's "Dunciad" now. It has always been a favourite. MarkRVS (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * And again, if you wish to improve Rishi Valley School you are welcome to comment at Talk:Rishi Valley School. --Muhandes (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Reading The Dunciad! Entirely enjoyable. Rached away! MarkRVS (talk) 09:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Poor prose
A substantive swathe of criticism of Wikipedia veers around its poor prose. I believe Wikipedia's English editors need to have at least a basic knowledge of written English - expecting a command over the language would be way too much - before indulging in a tiresome meddling with articles, which stand well on their own and are in perfect standard English.

Also, basic general knowledge would be welcome. It's painful - and a tad amusing - to witness noxious and ubiquitous troglodytes. MarkRVS (talk) 09:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Richard Cyert
I had removed the mention of Richard Cyert from the lead with comment "who appointed her is relevant in the Career section, not in the lead". User added it back but gave no other justification to keep it in the lead, than the fact that it has been there for long. So while I wait for it, I will be removing the word "legendary" (MOS:PEACOCK}, and "founder" as it is not clear what he founded. Neither his article nor Carnegie Mellon University mentions him as a founder. I will be adding a Citation needed in the Career section as well.  Jay (Talk) 17:27, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * He is the Founder President of Carnegie Mellon, and he is a legend. It was Dr Richard Cyert who merged Carnegie Tech and Mellon Institute to form Carnegie Mellon. I know. He told me this himself. Hillary1900 (talk) 17:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * It isn't every day that a young Indian lady is appointed directly by the Founder President of a New Ivy League University, and, by what's in my book, it belongs right at the beginning.


 * How are you connected with Carnegie Mellon? Hillary1900 (talk) 17:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You may want to provide a reference from your book that he is known as the Founder or Founder President. Carnegie Tech and Mellon Institute were merged to form Carnegie Mellon in 1967. Cyert was President from 1972 to 1990. The page on Paul Mellon credits Mellon with the merger, there is no mention of Cyert. I am not connected with Carnegie Mellon.  Jay (Talk) 18:04, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops, I misunderstood that you have a book and the mention of Richard Cyert as Founder, is there at the beginning. I now see you meant in my book as a phrase. I have struck it off.  Jay (Talk) 10:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you provide the line or quote from the source you provided that he is the Founder? I can convert it to a Citation format. On going to the page I only see a one-line profile of Operajita. Or is it a particular story within that page you are referring to such as "View: The new India demands that the not-so-veiled Eurocentrism and American-centrism undergo rigorous scrutiny"?  Jay (Talk) 18:22, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * You don't get it. President Cyert did not found the Mellon Institute or Carnegie Tech. He merged two reputed institutions to create a NEW entity called Carnegie Mellon University, and was appointed Founder President of the thereby newly created university. The whole world is cognizant of who founded Carnegie Tech (Andrew Carnegie), and who founded the Mellon Institute (Andrew Mellon)! So much below the sel. Hillary1900 (talk) 19:58, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * As I said, there is no mention of he merging the institutions, and no mention of he being called Founder President. All we need is a mention from reliable source that says he was appointed Founder President.  Jay (Talk) 20:27, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's still not clear what the Economic Times bio of Operajita link that you added, contains, apart from the one-line profile that I see. it is the same link that is referenced in the lead section. I went through the story "View: The new India demands that the not-so-veiled Eurocentrism and American-centrism undergo rigorous scrutiny" linked from that page, and it is not related to Cyert. I am adding back the Citation Needed for Cyert as Founder. Also removing the line about Cyert's contribution to CMU, which is relevant to the Cyert and CMU articles, but not in an article about Operajita.  Jay (Talk) 04:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * There was no reference of him being Founder, I have removed the mention. Moreover, the discussion of founding of Carnegie Mellon is better done at the university article talk page or the reference desk, not at Talk:Oopali Operajita.  Jay (Talk) 11:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The justification of keeping Cyert in the lead section was not forthcoming, hence removing it. See Manual of Style/Lead section for arguments.  Jay (Talk) 05:20, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Could I please connect with a Senior Editor at Wiki?
There's a couple of issues that need sorting out. Hillary1900 (talk) 17:46, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, do let me know. I am a senior editor.  Jay (Talk) 18:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You can also add a Help me tag on your user talk page and add your question or comment under it.  Jay (Talk) 08:33, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Torch bearer of Rishi Valley dance
I had that said Operajita is a torchbearer of the great Rishi Valley dance tradition, with comment "rm WP:PEACOCK terms". User  but gave no justification on why it should be retained. So while I wait for it, I will be adding a Citation needed for the torch bearer part.  Jay (Talk) 19:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Geez Hillary1900 (talk) 19:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The justification of keeping the torchbearer statement was not forthcoming, hence removing it.  Jay (Talk) 08:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Al Gore Sustainable Technology Venture Competition inaccuracies
●Please don't fiddle with details about the Al Gore Sustainable Technology Venture Competition and insert inaccurate stuff there. That's unwarranted. ● Now, if you need further details about President Cyert, I can connect you to Carnegie Mellon's Mellon's Vice President and Legal Counsel, and you might want to confirm these from him. Hillary1900 (talk) 20:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you provide more details of what you meant by inaccurate stuff? Assuming from, if this is about whether IITs, NITs and IIMs are participants or partners to the competition, then going by the references provided against it, the article at the Carnegie Mellon University says "The competition draws teams of students from India's leading institutions, including its fabled Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), National Institutes of Technology (NITs), and Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs)." and the article at IIM Bangalore says "ASSOCHAM and IIT Kharagpur were the Official Partners of The Al Gore Sustainable Technology Venture Competition 2009." IITK was the partner for one year, otherwise they and the others were participants.  Jay (Talk) 23:33, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * There has been no followup on this conversation. I'll be adding back IITs, NITs and IIMs as participants. Added a line about IITK and IITM as partners for specific years. Also fixed the founding year and start of competition based on the references.  Jay (Talk) 11:27, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * As without explanation and despite this conversation happening, I had  saying why. As  again without explanation and despite this conversation happening, I said at your talk page a month back that your changes can be reverted and asking you to engage at the talk here or to build consensus.  Jay (Talk) 05:16, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As my changes without an attempt at discussion, I have left another note at your talk page, and added it back. If you need help understanding or contributing to Wikipedia, please refer the relevant links at your talk page.  Jay (Talk) 06:56, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * On President Cyert, you may want to get the reliable sources information from your contacts. More details on your user talk page.  Jay (Talk) 23:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Former fellow
I had added the word "former" to refer to Operajita's status as Distinguished Fellow of CMU. This is in line with the references in the article. User  but gave no justification on why it should not be there. I'll be adding it back by reusing the references used in the article. I prefer the word "former" (which IIMB uses) over "was" (which the CMU website uses) as this is the lead section of the biography of a living person.  Jay (Talk) 20:13, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The user with comment "... Please refer to the latest citation of July, 2021." probably referring to Operajita's standard one-line bio at Economic Times, and taking no cognizance of the existing references in the article, Carnegie Mellon website, IIMB website, referring to her status as "former". I have added another reference from the company Cicero, of which she is the CEO, which refers to her profile as "Former Distinguished Faculty Fellow".  Jay (Talk) 05:18, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have added back "former" and for additional clarity added a quote in the 2 citations that mentions "former".  Jay (Talk) 04:48, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Connecting with a Trustee of Wiki
Editor Jay's repeated and obsessive stalking and dismembering of Professor Oopalee Operajita's wikipage bears scrutiny. It constitutes tampering with someone's reputation online.

Rai Bahadur DC Das, IAS, of the rank of Chief Secretary of Odisha, award-winning poet, Nirmala Devi, Professor Radha Krushna Das and Krushna Priya Devi are well known in Odisha, long before the internet existed. That doesn't take away from their value or their well established and venerated reputation. But Jay sees fit to remove their names.

I'm not sure about what Jay's full time job is but this obsession and repeated meddling is bizarre, and, frankly, unethical. Hillary1900 (talk) 02:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The Oopali Operajita article is on my watchlist. I make edits to thousands of articles. All articles on Wikipedia, including this, are going through review by editors all the time. If you have questions or concerns on the edits, you can list them on the talk page, or see the suggestion I gave at.


 * I did not remove the names of Rai Bahadur DC Das, Nirmala Devi, Professor Radha Krushna Das and Krushna Priya Devi from the article, I replaced them in the Relatives field of the Infobox, with other relatives who have articles. And did leave the edit summary "Infobox - relatives should be independently notable, include those with articles". The 4 grand parents do not have articles on Wikipedia. You may want to go through Notability, and feel free to create articles on them.  Jay (Talk) 04:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Awards lacking sources
Could not find reliable sources for these awards, so moved it out of the article to here. Self-published / Primary sources such as LinkedIn, oopalioperajita.com and cicerotransnational.com cannot be used.  Jay (Talk) 14:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Chancellor's Prize Winner for Debating
 * Selected to represent India at the English Speaking Union of the Commonwealth
 * Singar Mani from Sur Singar Samsad
 * Swami Haridas Award from Sur Singar Samsad
 * Top-ranked Young Artist of the National Sangeet Natak Akademi, 1982, nominated by Kamaladevi Chattopadhyay
 * Special Award for performing at the Diamond Jubilee of the Prayag Sangeet Samiti, Allahabad
 * Moved the below as well:
 * National Science Talent Scholar
 * National Scholar
 * 'A' Grade Top Ranked Artist of Doordarshan, National Television, 1990
 * Empanelled Outstanding Artist of the Indian Council for Cultural Relations, 1992
 *  Jay (Talk) 12:18, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Al Gore Sustainable Technology Venture Competition
I can't find any evidence the competition has taken place since 2011. If it hasn't, that should be reflected in the article. I'm also a bit uncomfortable with the way the competition is discussed, since there's certainly the implication that Gore is/was somehow involved and/or endorsed it, but I don't see any evidence of that in the article or sources. Thoughts? BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 12:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If it was discontinued after 2011 and we have information on that, then we can put that in the article. Al Gore was wiki-linked in the competition name in the lede, and I have removed it. The sources do say it was named in honour of Al Gore. The Cicero website says . Jay (talk) 14:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything saying "it was discontinued," just no information (including on the part of Operajita's website dedicated to the contest) about anything post-2011. As for the "encouragement from some of Gore's colleagues," the only source is her own website for that. As for the endorsement/honour issue, better phrasing (for the lead) might be "and the founder of a sustainable technology venture competition, which she named in honor of Al Gore." BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 15:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Oopali Operajita's Wikipedia page
Hi:

This is Amy Rosenberg, Administrative Assistant to Professor Oopalee Operajita.

We approached Wikipedia, as well as a trustee of Wikimedia, to express our serious concerns at the recent activity on Professor Operajita's Wikipedia page, which she has only recently looked at, fully, after I reported recent, multiple edits.

We are, naturally, rather concerned, as entire sections have been removed, and bona fide sites like the most respected New York Public Library are called into question.

I am here to rectify errors, per the advice we have received, and sort this out. Should we find that this persists, to Professor Operajita's dissatisfaction, we will request a swift deletion of the page.

Thank you.

Amy RosenbergAthena2019 (talk) 08:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Athena2019, I would request you to go through Wikipedia's guidelines on Conflict of Interest editing, and Paid editing. I will be reverting your edits because of this (and not because of any disagreement on the content you modified). However, you may continue to participate in any discussions at this talk page. Jay (talk) 08:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) Please read WP:COI, and you will discover that you should not be editing this page, except to fix blatant errors, which your edits do not. This is a neutral encyclopedia, not an advertising platform for Ms Operajita to promote herself. And why do you call her Professor Oopalee Operajita? Where does she hold a professorship? And, finally, the trustees of Wikimedia do not decide on the content of articles, so if that is an accurate reflection of what you were told then you were lied to. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Dance critic P V Subramaniam
, I had regarding dance critic P V Subramaniam with comment rm citation needed for Subbudu critic comment, the NYPL ref (although tagged unreliable) mentions it, but  again. Can you add your reason to the cn. Jay (talk) 03:10, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the strength of the statement, I thought it needed a citation inline, rather than just somewhere in the article. I'll replace the CN template with the NYPL citation and an unreliable? tag. The subject's website has text for a review in which the "best Odissi interpreter today" statement is made, but there's no info on date, and I can't find a way to search The Statesman's archives to verify. Thanks for listing the NYPL source on the RS board, btw. BubbaJoe123456 (talk)

Bibliography vs inline
, what is the reason the Bibliography entries with inline citations? Jay (talk) 03:15, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The Non-Guru Guru book isn't about the article subject, so seemed better as an inline reference. As for the translated book, again, seemed simpler to have as an inline reference.BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 11:47, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

NYPL events reliability
I have posted the reliability notice at WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Jay (talk) 07:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The source was discussed and archived at WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 356. There was no opinion FOR, and two opinions AGAINST using the NYPL event bios for biographies. Jay (talk) 03:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Sources on oopalioperajita.com
The press section of oopalioperajita.com includes a number of reviews that would be useful sources for the article, once they're properly cited. In particular, the Subbudu review from The New Statesman and the Vranish review from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette would be very useful Reliable Sources for the article, but neither clip includes information on the date of publication, which would be necessary to verify the source. For the Vranish review, I've searched the Post-Gazette archives, and been unable to find the referenced story. It doesn't look like The Statesman has online archives, so a publication date and page number would be critical in finding the story and properly referencing it. I've asked Athena2019 about this on her talk page (as she described herself as Operajita's administrative assistant). BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 12:35, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I had gone to the post-gazette archives as well, but they are behind a paywall - $7.95 /month. Jay (talk) 16:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * - I have access to the Post-Gazette through the Wikipedia Library, and have searched for the article in question, but can't find it. There are articles by Vranish that mention Operajita (such as the one used for reference 20 in the article) but nothing that matches the text of the article on Operajita's website. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Distinguished fellow
In many places a fellowship (including a 'distinguished fellow') is funding for graduate or postdoc studies, not a job title. If so, it ought to be moved out of the lead and career sections and into the education section. But I suppose it is possible that CMU means something else by this, so I thought I would seek other opinions. MrOllie (talk) 17:44, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like CMU uses it as something along the lines of "expert adjunct." See here and here for example. That would make it more of a job title, rather than part of her education, in which case it should stay where it is. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 18:06, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, they mean a visiting professor visiting scholar. Thanks! MrOllie (talk) 18:17, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Close, but more like "adjunct with a day job," as compared to "adjunct who couldn't get a tenure track job." Anyway, treatment looks right to me. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 18:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) Please be careful about using the word "professor". I have seen no evidence that Operajita holds that rank, and have been accused of misogyny and xenophobia for simply asking where she obtained the title. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:28, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough! - MrOllie (talk) 18:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Fake details
This article is riddled with claims that lack credible citations. The information carried on this page seems to be largely supplied by a person close to the subject. Recommend this page be suspended or removed. 2405:201:A001:9870:5EC:1345:677E:2B76 (talk) 00:28, 28 September 2022 (UTC)