Talk:Opération Harmattan

Merger proposal
It doesnt make sense to have separate articles for US, UK and French operations in Libya, simply because they each have different code names. They are coordinated coalition operations against a single enemy. The articles should be unified under a new title, perhaps Coalition operations in Libya. -67.161.54.63 (talk) 00:46, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree, we now have 4 separate stub pages detailing actions taken by various countries to enforce the Libya no-fly zone - Operation Mobile, Operation Ellamy, Operation Odyssey Dawn and Opération Harmattan. This is overkill, we should simply have separate sections on the Libyan no-fly zone page for each country's actions. If the Libya NFZ page gets too long or the operations continue for a substantial time we can separate them out then. Mztourist (talk) 12:45, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagree, these are 4 separate operations at the moment. i.e. the French Ground Strikes around Benghazi on March 19th were done without the coalitions command structure. Also until a central command is set up each nation operates a national operation, based on the requirements of the strategic command (US African Command) and then in the theater of operations are conducted under the tactical command of US Naval Forces Europe. noclador (talk) 12:55, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagree, Each can stand on their own at this time, as the stories are emerging and individual country's efforts are not yet being merged into a cohesive action. Bzuk (talk) 13:09, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Disagree: As per above. Dapi89 (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree, all four operations fall within the rubric of an allied military assault against the government of, or supporters of the government of, Muammar al-Qaddafi. There is not a single reason that the details of each country's operations cannot be included as subsections of a single article, outline the roles of each individual country in the coalition.  It might still be unnecessarily disjointed, but at least readers won't have to open four different tabs to collect information about the conflict as it unfolds.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshuare5768 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Agree with merge. It is confusing having separate articles for each operation.  It's a combined effort by these nations against a single opponent, so they should be combined into a single article. Cla68 (talk) 03:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The articles give a full explanation about each country's involvment, what they did, and how effective strikes are/were. To the contrary, merging them will make this less clear. You'd have to be a pretty simple person to get confused by all this as it stands. Dapi89 (talk) 10:29, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Galeb down?
(This is an exact copy of the notification I posted at Talk:2011 military intervention in Libya.)

Please, do not add at this point (about 3pm GMT, March 24) the news about Libyan Galeb being shot down over Misrata. See BBC News live blog - France has actively declined to confirm those reports. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but this information is neither officially confirmed nor referenced by multiple sources - in fact, all of the news about this seem to be copies of original ABC news. Please, do wait for confirmation. Peasantwarrior (talk) 15:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps if I wrote this a couple of minutes later... According to AP (with Guardian forwarding the news), "US official: French jet has attacked and destroyed a Libyan airplane". However, it still may be a bit too soon to include this, considering the curious fact that Paris declined to confirm the report. Peasantwarrior (talk) 15:15, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Getting better
than the Americanised page Operation Odyssey DawnOther dictionaries are better (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Files_for_deletion/2011_March_27
Check WP:NFCC. All opinions welcome. Thank you. walk victor falktalk 17:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Should this still be updated?
The French are still conducting theri own ops despite NATO taking chargeOther dictionaries are better (talk) 12:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Anti-air Destroyer Jean Bart (D615)
In the list of French Navy ships in Task Force 473, The ship identified as "Anti-air Destroyer Jean Bart (D615) is actually a frigate according to its Wikipedia entry in spite of the D, rather than an F, in her hull number. ☺ Dick Kimball (talk) 12:44, 19 March 2015 (UTC)