Talk:Open society/Archive 1

social mobility
I am not a social scientist or something similar, but I recall one of definition of open societies something like "society where vertical movement is easy"; i.e. where changes in social status are easy. But I cannot find anything similar on the page.

saigon_from_europe
 * This article seems to be talking about the concept of the "open society" in politics. While politics and social/economic structures are typically closely related, they are not the same; therefore the concept of "open society" in economics would either be a distinct section of the article or a different article. --Dpr 09:44, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


 * What you are touching on, Dpr, is the distinction between social mobility and economic mobility. Mobility in social status is relevant. Indeed, Popper discusses it in The Open Society and Its Enemies. For that reason I have attended to saigon_from_europe's suggestion for the article. Robnpov 21:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

From or for
"keeps no secrets FROM itself", or "keeps no secrets FOR itself", or "keeps no secrets from de public"

Above comment also seems relevant: "society where vertical movement is easy"
 * As it is, "from", would be applicable to the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. "For" would be redundant.  "From the public" is distinctly different.  "The public" is not the same as "the State", though they are a defining part.  However, while the sentence as it stands is grammatically correct, it is ambiguous.  Also, whoever wrote it is by no means perfect.  What source can we check this against, I wonder? --Talionis (Shout me · Stalk me) 10:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

FYI
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No Mention of Bergson at all.
There is absolutely no discussion of Bergson's view of "Open Society" at all in this article, even though he was the originator of the idea. This needs to be addressed. Duckelf (talk) 00:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

easy to read english.
Whoever wrote this made it very difficult to read. He has either just copy and pasted old books or just does not get modern english. This is a very important subject and everyone should be reading this. Can someone please try to rewrite this in clear english. I dont have the skills. jts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.170.15.135 (talk) 17:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)