Talk:Operation Midnight Climax

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Is it just me or is there no citation or evidence referenced here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.213.98.17 (talk) 22:58, 18 October 2006


 * Yep... welcome to Wikipedia. I've just about given up on trying to improve articles here.  There is a good enough policy about verifiability, but hardly any editors are willing to actually follow it.   18.252.5.157 21:51, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

i cant find anything about this anywhere on the web except wikipedia...72.179.44.129 17:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I got here through a link from MKULTRA which cites the information for this from the following: Marks, John (1979). The Search for the Manchurian Candidate. New York: Times Books. ISBN 0-8129-0773-6. I don't own the book so maybe someone who owns the book can enlighten us.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 04:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Johns don't seem like very reliable test subjects to me. I imagine their responses to situations will be a bit different than the normal population. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.45.237 (talk) 19:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Sources, Notable?
Is anyone going to provide reliable, verifiable, NPOV sources for this? Or maybe explain how it is WP:Notable?

Thank you. -- ND State  23:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Part of MKULTRA, CIA mind-control project. User:Pedant (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

EABJM
Any reason to link to EABJM in the see also section? User:Pedant (talk) 17:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

No, I believe it's vandalism. Removing the link. Shannon Garcia (talk) 02:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Development of operational techniques
Descriptions of what occurred suggests to me that this was a case of administering drugs for no real purpose. What "significant operational techniques" could possibly have been developed from this "research"?Royalcourtier (talk) 04:07, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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Operation Midnight Climax was an operation carried out by the CIA as a sub-project of Project MKUltra, the mind-control research program that began in the 1950s. It was initially established in 1954 by Sidney Gottlieb and placed under the direction of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics in Boston, Massachusetts with the "Federal Narcotics Agent and CIA consultant"[1] George Hunter White under the pseudonym of Morgan Hall.[1][2] Dr. Sidney Gottlieb was a chemist who was chief of the Chemical Division of the Technical Services Staff of the CIA. Under the Cold War and fears of the Soviet Union and China, Gottlieb felt inspired to investigate methods of mind control. Gottlieb based his plan for Project MKUltra and Operation Midnight Climax off of interrogation method research under Project Artichoke. Unlike Project Artichoke, Operation Midnight Climax gave Gottlieb permission to test drugs on unknowing citizens, which made way for the legacy of this operation.[citation needed] Hundreds of federal agents, field operatives, and scientists worked on these programs before they were shut down in the 1960s 37.236.55.36 (talk) 17:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Blatantly illegal?
The term "blatantly illegal" referring to the CIA spying on Americans feels like editorializing. I propose that it be edited to simply "illegal" 2604:CA00:178:C54B:0:0:1061:E5C (talk) 13:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Possible death section on Frank Olson seems slightly misleading
The current version of the section makes it sound like the $750,000 in settlement were a consequence of the 1994 autopsy, but the settlement happened already in 1975 according to Frank Olson. Meerpirat (talk) 23:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)