Talk:Operation Summer Rains suboperations

Name of the article,original research, unverified claims

 * 1) This article should be renamed, it sounds terrible. It's also wrong (compare also below).
 * 2) Whatsoever, the first sentence "Operation Summer Rain suboperations are the Israel Defense Forces' military operations launched as part of Operation Summer Rains" is a wrong claim, see IDF-Website where the Gaza operations are now put again under Ebb and Flood naming (making them a part of the Israeli reactions to the Al-Aqsa Intifada). The claim is also wrong because of the statement made by Ynetnews in its article from August 28th, saying that IDF ended Summer Rain "during the war in the North". As I minimal consensus the sentence should be modified into: "Operation Summer Rain suboperations are a row of military operations launched by the Israel Defense Forces into the Gaza strip in the aftermath of the capture of Gilad Shalit." I made this modification and as a result I don't see the need of the OR/unverified claim tag anymore (which I did not remove)
 * 3) The IDF-website now conducts the Gaza operations under the old name Ebb and Flood (but I am not aware of when they changed this).
 * 4) As a result of the above cited Ynetnews article and despite the fact that the first six operations, from Southern Shalit up to Horizon Line, might be parts of Summer Rain, the operations Locked Garden, Rain Man, Four Kinds, Squeezed Fruit and Autumn Clouds definitely are not, since they were conducted after the war with Hisbollah was halted. Especially Autumn Clouds isn't. Several media outlets named Autumn Clouds the strongest incursion since Summer Rain, some even stated it was the greatest operation since the disengagement in 2005. Another evidences of this are: the IDF-Website (see above); the meaning of the operation names (Summer Rain and Autumn Clouds refer to weather phenomens while all other code names don't); the fact that summer turned into fall on the Northern hemisphere.
 * 5) Despite all said above, the 2006 Israel-Gaza conflict casualties timeline is covering all of the conflict and refers to 2006 Israel-Gaza conflict
 * 6) There's also an issue with the article 2006 Israel-Gaza conflict itself. Though the name implies to cover the conflict between Israel and Gaza during the year 2006 it focuses on Operation Summer Rain. Therefore I would pledge to move 2006 Israel-Gaza conflict again to Operation Summer Rain (as it originally existed) and afterwards move the article Operation Summer Rains suboperations on 2006 Israel-Gaza conflict. Then merge in the articles Timeline up to 2006 Gaza crisis, Gaza beach blast and Muamar family detention incident--213.155.224.232 14:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Several corrections
Please make the corrections below, I am not a native English speaker and don't want to mess up with the article.

There's at least one more operation in the timeline, Footprints in the Sand, which took place around Khan Younis between 25th and 27th Octobre. ("began on Wednesday and lastet two days")

Please also control data for Rain Man and Four Kinds.


 * Rain Man was fought according to Ynetnews on 13.10.06 for "the second consecutive day" and Jerusalem Post wrote 14.10.06 that the operation "launched two days earlier... came to an end", so it might be active from 12th to 14th of Octobre.
 * Four Kinds is called Four Species by Ynetnews and Jerusalem Post. While the date isn't consistent with the Ynetnews article from 14.10 ("for several days") at all, Jerusalem Post writes, that it began "after the Succot Holiday" -> 14th of Octobre. However, both articles don't use the name Four Kinds but Four Species. Also here perhaps the dates for the beginning in reality denote the date of the end of the offensive.

However, it seems that the flood of operation names also's confusing for the Isreali press, while Haaretz doesn't use them at all. --213.155.224.232 10:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge
The content in this article belongs in 2006 Israel-Gaza conflict, and it is not long enough to require a spinout. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 00:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)