Talk:Operations order

This is the same as the 5 paragraph order entry. Hal06 23:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well its called an OPORD in the millitary, that page should refference this one. The page was marked for clean up with a mention of an error being thorwn by a table but there were no tables in the page so I removed the tag. I also replaced the list for the OPORD paragraph description with the information from FM 101-5. Cleanshooter (talk) 15:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

An OPORD, OPLAN, FRAGO, WARNO is the result of a C2 process and is often written as a five paragraphs. Some C2 processes that result in OPORDs are MDMP, GOP, OPP, EBAP, CAPD etc. Perhaps links to OPLAN, WARNO, FRAGO as well as the processe might be needed. pergux 19:27, 13 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pergu (talk • contribs)

merge
I suggest merging five paragraph order into operations order. And leaving behind a redirect so people searching for "five paragraph order" will find the description of a five paragraph order in this article.

As far as I can tell from reading the articles, a five paragraph order is a common kind of operations order; and the distinction (if any) can be covered in a couple of paragraphs in a merged article. --DavidCary (talk) 15:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge. An OPORD is a subset of the Five Paragraph Field Order, which also includes FRAGOs, etc. When merging, we need to update this one. The Army pattern as given in FM 6.0, has greatly expanded the old Cold War era order given here. Things have been added, other parts have changed names (Logistics to Sustainment, for example). The whole format given is sadly way, way out of date. FYI: I do this for a living. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 17:30, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge. I've never heard that, and throughout my long service, I have always seen the terms "Five Paragraph Field Order" and "Operations Order" used interchangeably. Whether they are the same or one is a subset of the other, they should be merged and drastically updated. I also do this for a living. CsikosLo (talk) 19:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Leave It
A five paragraph order is used by the USMC and standardized through the acronym SMEAC. A opord is used by the Army, with the fourth paragraph being Sustainment. -(JoelOdo former US Marine & current Soldier)- 1454, 4 May 2015 (CST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.215.192.220 (talk)

I believe I have to second the above statement. The words 'military' and 'in the military' get used as though one person's branch is the sum total of military usage. After talking to assorted Marines, Airmen and Sailors, I see they have many documents that are (or sound or appear) similar, but surely aren't. I am tempted to merge the two articles under the heading of what my people use, but it will only cause confusion in the readers who are told that what they need to look up is something else. LTC (Ret.) David J. Cormier (talk) 16:21, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Frederick E. Garman, COL, US Army, Ret
Colonel Frederick E. Garman the developer of the 5 paragraph field order (OPORD) died 26 April 2022 at Viera, FL 4.79.197.234 (talk) 01:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Rename
This page should be renamed 'Operation Order', dropping the S. 'Operations Order' can link here but it is not the correct spelling. 2001:569:5270:A400:81DF:40E3:362E:516C (talk) 04:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)