Talk:Operissimo

Possibly inacccuracy of database content
The contents of the Operisimo database might possibly  not  be  wholly accurate  (see: Talk:Kay Griffel). Until the matter has been resolved, editors are advised to use the Operissimo database with  caution, especially  as references for biographies of living  people. --Kudpung (talk) 02:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but I don't see a problem here. Have you found a source that contradicts operissimo's entry on the artist Kay Griffel? It doesn't appear that you have in looking at that conversation. Indeed, I have added another ref to the article on Kay Griffel from the Los Angeles Times which verifies the accuracy of operissimo.4meter4 (talk) 05:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment See Talk:Kay Griffel. I have found a print reference from The Metropolitan Opera Encyclopedia which verifies the disputed fact which had been referenced to Operissimo. It does/did have a print version, and the website itself, is mentioned as a source in a variety of print publications. Having said that, this site should not be used as the sole reference for biographies of living people and any facts in it should be cross-checked with and replaced by more reliable sources.  One of the problems with the online Operissimo is that none of their articles list any sources themselves. Another is that artists can pay €79 per year to have their biography uploaded and featured. Thus, it can't always be considered as a source independent of the subject. Voceditenore (talk) 10:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Notability/Viability as a separate article
I don't think this website passes the notability criteria for web content. It mainly serves to lend credibility (and explain what it is) when it's used in other WP articles as a reference. This can just as easily be accomplished by a brief explanation in the reference itself (including the link to www.intute.ac.uk). I'd be in favour of deletion, frankly.

Also, the official name of the website is simply "Operissimo" from what I can see from their own main page and impressum information, despite the fact that Intute and other library web resource pages (e.g., ) call it "Operissimo concertissimo". Voceditenore (talk) 11:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Apart from working  extensively  within Wikipedia BLP  policy  and repairing 100s of BLP rticles on  the fly, I  have absolutely  no knowledge of opera matters,  or their on- or off-line sources. However, as a comparison, even the IMDB that  fans use to  'source' their favourite actors, is regarded with  much  skepticism by  neutral  Wikipedia housekeepers, even though  the submitted content  is theoretically  controlled for accuracy -  we actually have a special  template for tagging  IMDB sourced articles. Any freely  collaborative web sites, especially  the social network  sites, and pay-for sites for bios, count  as self-published and are clearly  disallowed here. Probably  the best  solution  right now  is to  run  a bot  to  localise the BLPs on  Wikipedia that  use Operissimo as a sole source, and tag them  for attention and look  for better sources. Additionally, this Wikipedia qarticle about  Operissimo should probably  be expaded with  mentions about  how it operates (sourced, of course).--Kudpung (talk) 12:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)