Talk:Opinion polling for the 2021 Israeli legislative election

Otzma
Should not we remove Otzma, given their negligible performance? Uri Argaman (talk) 14:30, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As long as they are included in the polls, we should include them too. ערן117 (talk) 17:08, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

We really should. Unless we want to start including Ale Yarok or Tzomet. --Jayhood97 (talk) 16:22, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

If it's reported in the poll it should be included. Eatabullet (talk) 22:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

4 polls average
Aren't we using a four polls-average graph? Currently it is three polls-average. Uri Argaman (talk) 06:37, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Only 3 polls have been published so far... ערן117 (talk) 17:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Smith polling
These polls haven't been published by anyone, no newspapers, no TV channels. The only one publishing them is KnessetJeremy who isn't exactly reliable. Should they be up here?

--Jayhood97 (talk) 16:22, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Splits and mergers
There are currently three tables for just. . . seven opinion polls.

This clogs the page unnecessarily and makes it illegible.

The order in which parties are laid out changes every time.

There is one simple solution: keep, as a principle, one table until there is, not just a merger or a split, but a realignment (i.e. a merger between discrete columns).

That realignment is likely to happen soon, as Labor is rumoured to enter Blue & White while Yesh Atid is out. If this happens, then it would become impossible to keep a straight column since the election. We would then break the table at that point -- but not before.

We can easily deal with mergers and splits by adding another party row and arranging them "at best". Here's how it would work.

Kahlores (talk) 18:57, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, with some minor changes. Notice I did just that with Gesher in the earliest of the 3 tables. ערן117 (talk) 07:55, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

I've set out the two tables here. has reverted, referring to WP:BRD but this is exactly the process I've been following. . . except you didn't bother to discuss your viewpoint! Perhaps because it's hard to defend having 4 tables for just 8 opinion polls? Kahlores (talk) 01:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Shulmanim Poll
A couple days ago a seperate hypothetical poll was published alongside the regular one. This poll included the Shulmanim or a hypothetical shulmanim party in it, a party which garnered 5 seats in that poll. Should this poll be included on the main page? Rh0809 (talk) 10:16, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In a "Scenario polls" section, yes. Flayer (talk) 12:47, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Article is wrong
it says that the gov is the number of seats the 34th gov has. it needs to be updated to the 35th. so replace yamin a with gantz 82.166.134.110 (talk) 11:22, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I count 72 seats with the current coalition's current numbers (Michaeli is not part of the coalition despite being a member of Havoda), I think someone from Blue & White might have switched to Yesh Atid? IDK, but anyway at the end of the 34th government there were 55 seats. At the most seats, the 34th government had 67 seats.Mèþru (talk) 13:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed new graph
Something like this (don't know why Derekh Eretz is behaving oddly)

Mèþru (talk) 20:09, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Questions: why do we use 3.9 instead of 3.25 for the Threshold value on the graph? And how do we calculate the percentage of seats for parties that don't cross the threshold? Also, isn't it misleading to give hypothetical percentages for parties that are now separate when the polls showed them split? We have no way of knowing how much would go to Yesh Atid-Telem from polls before they split from Blue and White.
 * I think that we should make the graph below the threshold just percentages of the vote, and either show Blue & White as well as Labour-Meretz-Gesher and Labour-Meretz merged for earlier polls or only start the graph after these blocs split. Mèþru (talk) 18:35, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The y-axis is for the number of seats. The 3.25 per 100 votes threshold translates as 3.9 of 120 seats. So you were wrong to change it.
 * I see two issues with this graph:
 * 1) it is too tall for most screens.
 * 2) the next elections are set for May 2023, not November 2024. The rotation agreement provides for 18 months for both leaders.
 * Kahlores (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to fix the time, that's a pre-existing issue and I don't get how the formatting there works. I just realised while typing a reponse a way to get the percent of seats, I'll fix that now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mèþru (talk • contribs) 14:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

I returned the graph to a smoother, 4-poll average as discussed in previous pages. Do notice when updating the graph according to a new poll, that you should put the average of the poll with the last relevant three, not the value of the latest poll alone. Uri Argaman (talk) 09:26, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the issue of the representation of split parties before the moment of the split, it is my opinion that the parties should be represented before the split by their share of their seats relative to their entire list in the current parliament with regard to the poll. For instance, a poll giving Blue&White 30 seats would give Yesh Atid-Telem 30*17/33=15.4545... it is possible to round the fourth digit after the dot. After that, one of course should average this value with the respective values from the last three polls, and put the result in the graph. It may be a bit hypothetical, and in hindsight, but I find it preferable to the confusing situation in which parties drop artificially and lines appear out of the blue, deceiving the reader to think they are new rather than existing parties. Uri Argaman (talk) 09:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

(Lack of) Consistency in "Gov." in table + Need to discuss this again after Monday
1. 2020-08-21 Maagar Mochot poll doesn't seem to add up to the total in the "Gov." Column (based on the definition in the current version of the page). Who decided who's in that list?

2. Can we confirm that the seats of break-off "Yamina" are or are not for Netanyahu?

3. Also, at least after Monday, Aug 23 (given the current trajectory, we're going to elections unless Netanyahu/Gantz come up with a miracle) it would seem that "Gov." should be replaced by likely partners in a Netanyahu coalition. I doubt Gantz would side with him after this (I don't even see how he's electable, but that's not an Encyclopedic point -- to my knowledge it's not verifiable by reliable analysts) but obviously "we" need to have *reliable sources* for what goes in that column.

4. On a more meta note, the "Note: The composition of the current government does not necessarily determine the exact makeup of the post-election government" Should really include a clear indication that the "Gov." column is not sourced well, and is at best representative of the "majority" analysis (please find sources, or indicate them better).

I generally feel uncomfortable just going in and making edits except when it's an obvious factual error / oversight. I'm too much of a "casual" to address the above alone. Rebblumstein (talk) 10:06, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Regarding #2, the page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-fifth_government_of_Israel references https://www.timesofisrael.com/yamina-chair-says-party-heading-to-opposition-with-head-held-high/.

So I guess I was just misinformed, but is the current incarnation of Yamina holding fast to their position? Rebblumstein (talk) 10:25, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

1. The 2020-08-21 Maagar Machot Gov value adds up the Seats of Likud, Blue & White, Shat and UTJ (and also Labor, Derekh Eret, Gesher and Jewish Home which are all consistently short of the threshold in the polls in this page and thus do not add seats to the tally). That follows the definition given.

2. We can't confirm anything. We can only use indications. Bennett only said he will not necessarily recommend Netanyahu for prime minister after the next elections - he did not declare he wouldn't and did not declare he would oppose Netanyahu were he the one to form the government.

3. As a political Junkie, I attribute more importance to the tally that includes the 34th government (after Yisrael Beitenu departure) parties. I think Bennet is more likely than Liberman or Gantz to join the a right wing coalition. But there is no room for speculation here. We can either eliminate this column, or leave it as it is. My problem with this collumn is that it seems to assume that the next coalition will necessarily be based upon the current one, as opposed to columns which sum up both the government and the opposition tally. Uri Argaman (talk) 05:57, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Who is shulman?
So really stupid question, I can't find anything on google regarding this so any help would be appreciated. Idan (talk) 11:18, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Shulman isn't a person, but a movement started on Facebook:
 * https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/shulman-party-as-the-next-benny-gantz-analysis-630872
 * I hope this helps. David O. Johnson (talk) 13:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Chart
can we choose another color than this random pink

My idea

Braganza (talk) 11:51, 11 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Derekh Eretz is different to New Hope, has a different leader, and combining them in the graph gives the misleading impression that an existing party had a sudden surge. They should be kept separate IMO. Chessrat  ( talk, contributions ) 21:06, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Governmental crisis
I think we should delete "Gov." from the table with New Hope, because de facto the coalition dissolved on the 2nd December

Braganza (talk) 19:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, it doesn't really serve much of a purpose once a general election season begins. Rh0809 (talk) 16:02, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think, that we should wait the moment when electoral campaign to 24th Knesset will started. --Nathan Gimein (talk) 22:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, regardless of the crisis. None of the reliable sources calculates this figure. They all calculate either right vs left, or pro-Bibi vs anti-Bibi. We should just quote what the sources do. ערן117 (talk) 11:36, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, but I do not hold any strong opinion on this. I will however follow closely the article. --Checco (talk) 20:57, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * if there is no resistance i will just remove it Braganza (talk) 11:38, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , hijacking the thread to ask if New Hope needs to be updated to 4 now that Michal Shir is in? Idan (talk) 12:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would say so like gesher in Feb. 2019 Braganza (talk) 12:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Michal Shir must resign from the Knesset if she wants to run in the next election with New Hope, so New Hope is still left with 3 MKs. ערן117 (talk) 15:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Quick Question
When do we start a new table? Like what calls for it? I'd assume that with Shelach we would start a new one since its another column. Idan (talk) 10:24, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, if we start a new table for Sa'ar, we should start a new table for Shelah too. Or we can continue using the old table for both. ערן117 (talk) 14:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would wait because Shelach's party appears to be a very small party unlike NH; but you can change it if you want Braganza (talk) 14:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I doesn't make much sense to make a table for only two polls with a party with 1% but Huldai had 4 seats in scenario polls Braganza (talk) 17:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Small parties
The number of parties that don't pass the threshold is becoming ridiculous. I suggest we delete all parties that have never passed the threshold in any poll, even if they are represented in the outgoing Knesset. Like we do in the scenario section. ערן117 (talk) 12:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , as long as they are in the knesset I think they should be included. Maybe merged into a small parties category with a note. But they should be included. Idan (talk) 13:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can add a "Others" column, like articles of other countries have. This column will have 10 current seats. This will save a lot of space. ערן117 (talk) 06:26, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , if we add an others party I believe it should only be for parties not expected to pass the threshold. Idan (talk) 07:39, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That's what I meant. The parties not expected to pass have 10 current seats: Labor 3, Telem 3, Smotrich 2, Gesher 1, Jewish Home 1. ערן117 (talk) 10:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Maybe we should delete the party of Danny Yatom, this political force even still not created.--Nathan Gimein (talk) 22:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. There's no real reason to include him on the chart unless (or more likely, until) he is included in a poll. Jacoby531 (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Someone has gone and added the Veterans party, making that section even wider. David O. Johnson (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Can someone reduce it? It is now one mess. Shadow4dark (talk) 06:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It has been reduced already. Compare this earlier revision: (without font reduction) to the current revision (Opinion polling for the 2021 Israeli legislative election) that includes abbreviations and font reduction. David O. Johnson (talk) 01:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

News
There's a sort of inflation of "news flash" rows. As I understand it the point of these should be to infrom the reader about changes in the lists that are presented in the polls. Not any announcement that any party or candidate make in the course of the election season, and not "plans to"s before it actually happense or is at least represented in the polls.--Nngnna (talk) 17:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. I think we should limit it to column changes (new party announcements, party splits, party mergers, and old parties withdrawing), plus perhaps leadership changes. Even then, I don't think leadership changes for parties running below the threshold are notable enough to be included. I also agree that we should wait for concrete events rather than media reports of plans, even if those reports are credible. Jacoby531 (talk) 17:43, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , regarding these rows, why was the split of atid and telem removed? I think its pretty much official now with lapid's post on facebook and the yaalon billboards in TLV Idan (talk) 22:17, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I wasn't the person who removed that row, so I don't know exactly what the rationale was, but I think it was removed because it was unofficial at the time when it was added, and most polls were still including Yesh Atid and Telem running together. However, now that Ya'alon and Lapid have confirmed that they are splitting, I see no reason not to add a new row for 9 January, indicating that YA and Telem aren't just planning to split, but that they actually have done so.Jacoby531 (talk) 22:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've re-added the Yesh Atid-Telem split (with an updated ref), as well as Merav Michaeli announcing she would contest the Labor leadership election. David O. Johnson (talk) 23:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've removed the line about Merav Michaeli. We can't add a line for every candidate in every primary election. That would never end. We should only inform about the results of the primaries and the election of the party leaders.
 * I've also removed the line about the Yamina split. The ref only checks this as a scenario. I'm not sure what's going on there, but I haven't seen any official declaration yet. ערן117 (talk) 04:46, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , last thing. should new hope be moved to the right more as it only has 2 seats to the other parties 3 Idan (talk) 08:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think so, but I'm not sure what's going on with Shasha-Biton. ערן117 (talk) 12:24, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , I think she's still part of the Likud as legally she has not transferred parties due to the knesset committee not declaring as such. The same goes for michael shir etc. Idan (talk) 12:29, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Religious Zionists & Yamina
Hi. Maybe we should add information about Religious Zionists to the main table. Yes, this party is stiil part of "Yamina", but leader of Religious Zionists Bezalel Smotrich working independenly and forming his list to the parliamentary elections. --Nathan Gimein (talk) 10:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I prefer to wait for an official announcement. From what I've read, I don't expect any until after the Jewish Home primaries. ערן117 (talk) 11:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , it looks like they would be seperate... maybe with Ben gvir? anyways i'm sure we will know really soon. Idan (talk) 17:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding latest polls that include Joint List
Hi,

I noticed that some of the most recent polls (like this one from The Jerusalem Post): (and this one from Maagar Mochot):  still include the Joint List. How should they be added to the main table? I'm not that adept at table editing. Thanks, David O. Johnson (talk) 05:07, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I figured it out; add them to the section that still includes the Joint List. David O. Johnson (talk) 07:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * These polls were conducted before the split. ערן117 (talk) 13:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Polls & Small parties
Should we add to the table the information about not polular parties like Telem, Tnufa, Gesher and Jewish Home? The popularity of this parties less than 1%. If we must add, so why we are not adding any inforamtion about Ale Yarok, Am Shalem, Veteran's Party and another political forces?

The example:

--Nathan Gimein (talk) 20:00, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , telem, tnufa, gesher and JH are featured in the polls unlike the other parties and have members representing them in the knesset. Idan (talk) 20:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * EDIT: I saw the 12 poll yesterday and they were featured. So I agree with youy now Idan (talk) 08:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I support removing these parties, as well as any party that has never passed the threshold in any poll, such as Otzma. We can group them together to an "Others" column, but I can live withouth it as well. ערן117 (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Also think so. --Nathan Gimein (talk) 08:33, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ,, how about a does not pass threshold column where we list all of the parties who don't pass. But I'm not sure how that would go about because some have members in the knesset Idan (talk) 08:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * So we can write that in the "current seats" row of the "others" column. ערן117 (talk) 11:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes "others" column looks me a good solution. Look now, we have many small parties who will never gain one seat. Shadow4dark (talk) 21:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Such constraints can be dealt with. If there were 25+ parties, we could still easily make do by using one- or two-letter abbreviations like we already do for some (UTJ, NEP): L for Likud, then YA, B&W, JL, etc.
 * As a rule of thumb, we shouldn't work to remove data because of a lack of space. We should work on the lack of space to include the data.
 * Kahlores (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Ta'al
Ta'al has not yet left the Joint List. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A10:8001:3C02:0:2C90:FBD7:79C9:5E38 (talk) 07:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, they have: . David O. Johnson (talk) 04:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The Knesset committee has approved the split, but they still negotiate, so it's unclear yet if they'll run together or not. At this point it's unclear what is a scenario and what is reality. It seems like everything is a scenario. For example the Joint List including Ta'al and excluding Ra'am is a scenario, because they have never announced this combination. We had a similar situation in the previous election, and then we added the split and merger scenarios to the main table. I suggest we do the same now. ערן117 (talk) 04:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Ta'al as part of Joint List
Hi. I was wondering if Ta'al should be separated from Joint List in the polling results table, as they (and Ra'am) split off on January 28th. They are currently joined in the Wikipedia entry.

It's not clear to me if the latest polls are including Ra'am and Ta'al in the Joint List results or not. The last poll from Panels Politics was published on Feb 2, and as I mentioned they split on Jan 28th. Eatabullet (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The last 2 polls (103fm & Channel 20) don't mention either Ta'al or Ra'am separately, so the pollsters assume they all run together with the Joint List. Even though the Knesset committee has approved the split, the negotiations still continue, and it's unclear yet how they will run. ערן117 (talk) 10:01, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I suppose all will be clear by the deadline to submit final lists. Eatabullet (talk) 15:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2021
A New poll Should Be Added. Kolpedia (talk) 19:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 17:34, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Maan Arab party
I suggest to add additional; party - called Maan. It is new Arab party and it did receive 1.3% in the recent poll for Channel 12 and there are several parties shown which didn't have 4 mandates yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shai2003 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

≥ Ma'an is not a new party. It is the name that Mada (the Arab Democratic Party) uses for its electoral list. It's the first time running since 2015. It's also very unlikely they'll pass because they share a similar electoral base as Ra'am and Ta'al, albeit more secular and social-democratic oriented given their past as a split from the Alignment. AVSKYE (talk) 20:46, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Gesher-Likud
From my understanding, Orly Levy-Abekasis completely left her own party of Gesher and joined the Likud. This can be seen in the Candidates List for the Likud which was submitted on behalf of the Likud - National Liberal Movement and One Future - Good Future for Israel. If Gesher were a part of the List, then it would be submitted on behalf of "Gesher headed by Orly Levy-Abekasis" as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AVSKYE (talk • contribs) 12:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Yamina/New Right
Hi

Will Bennett's party contest as Yamina or as New Right? --Panam2014 (talk) 12:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

≥ Naftali Bennett is running as Yamina, although it is not much of an electoral alliance anymore (only 1 party). AVSKYE (talk) 20:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , yea its kind of the same situation for hosen and gantz Idan (username is Zvikorn) (talk) 07:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2021
At polls section, the poll from February 5th, from Channel 12, please add Ma'an party with 1,3%. here is the link from the poll published by Channel 12, where it shows Ma'an with 1.3% - https://www.mako.co.il/news-politics/2021_q1/Article-02987a35ff27771026.htm?partner=lobby Wiki BLD (talk) 15:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌. I don't see a poll for Feb 5, nor can I find a Wikipedia article for the Ma'an party. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 02:30, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , The poll is there, really weird that you don't see it. Adding a new party to the poll would involve creating a new table or at least a new column. The polls have displayed Ale Yarok and other smaller parties that won't pass too. I'm all for it. maybe under an others tab? Idan (username is Zvikorn) (talk) 07:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I... don't know why I didn't see it, so I apologize. However, I don't read Hebrew, so I wouldn't add it myself. It's your call. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 07:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm inexperienced in Wikipedia tables and don't want to mess up the article as I have accidentally done in the past. Maybe other editors who have participated in the discussions about smaller parties in the talk sections above this one can help. Idan (username is Zvikorn) (talk) 13:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

New color of Yamina
Hi

the new color of the party is blue, not yellow. So it should be changed. Can I have the code of the new color? --Panam2014 (talk) 01:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I believe that readability is better than official colour for the purposes of the graph. It's impossible to tell who's leading if there are four virtually identical shades of blue next to each other in it. Chessrat  ( talk, contributions ) 19:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * see WP:OR. We could not use a color which is not used by the party during the election. --Panam2014 (talk) 20:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * On the contrary there are plenty of articles in which official colours aren't used (e.g. 2016 Democratic Party presidential primaries). For the purposes of a polling graph, there is no point in using the colours that a party uses if doing so makes the graph unreadable. Chessrat  ( talk, contributions ) 00:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * for PRIMARIES not for the party. For the party, there are no resason to use another color. --Panam2014 (talk) 12:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ”no reason to use another color”- I think keeping the graph readable is a very good reason to use another color. I wonder if any other editors have thoughts on this matter. Chessrat  ( talk, contributions ) 13:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Colors used for graph
I am having a difficult time differentiating the parties from each other due to the similarities in color, is their anything to do about it?195.60.235.48 (talk) 21:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC) Can someone make the colors on the graph with more contrast 213.8.151.40 (talk) 10:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC) "This section displays voting intention estimates referring to a hypothetical Knesset election."(c) I am not registered at wikipedia and thus cannot fix this is outdated info. Today is 24 Feb and only polls before 23 Dec 2020 refer to a hypothetical Knesset election. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.186.133.69 (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it. Thanks David O. Johnson (talk) 06:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Polling average
Can someone with technical know-how put in a numerical readout for the polling average? Either on the chart or at the top of the table. Gershonmk (talk) 19:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2021
In the Mar 11	Maagar Mohot poll in Israel Hayom (in the table of poll results), the Yamina party received 11 seats and the New Hope party received 10 seats. You have this in reverse (you incorrectly gave 10 to Yamina & 11 to New Hope). The source is the article itself when you click on the link provided. So to summarize:. Need to change Yamina to 11 and New Hope to 10 in the polls table in the March 11 Maagar Mohot poll in Israel Hayom. 38.125.100.28 (talk) 13:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait blue.svg Checking... ~ Aseleste charge-paritytime 13:14, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Nuvola Green Plus.svg Highly likely by comparing the glyphs.
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Doing... ~ Aseleste charge-paritytime 13:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done See Special:Diff/1011722621. ~ Aseleste charge-paritytime 13:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Remove Kan Madad poll
The Kan Madad poll (contrary to Kan Kantar poll) is not actually a poll. Rather it is an aggregate of other polls, or a "poll of polls" as the source says. To quote the very source given, "the Madad analyzes the situation based on all the other polls published on television, radio stations, and newspapers." The fact this isn't a simple average doesn't change the fact that the "poll" does not actually introduce new data, and is simply an aggregate of previous polling. As this page is about real polls, the Kan Madad "poll" should be removed. Rami R 09:58, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. The Kan/Madad Poll is certainly a poll. Not only does Kan/Madad call it a poll, other references found on Google refer to it as such. It's also not an aggregate of polls as was mentioned in the reason for removal.


 * That aside, the poll they conduct is one of the most comprehensive ones in the election cycle and in tbe polling industry. Per the source article, "it's conducted to analyzes the situation based on all the other polls published on television, radio stations, and newspapers. It is not based on the averages of the other polls, but based on calculations which take additional factors into account as well".


 * Because of the polls richness and breadth, its arguably one of the most important polls available. Excluding it would be a negative for this article and for readers. Eatabullet (talk) 15:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but [citation needed] on "Kan calls it a poll" (all I've seen is "poll of polls"). I mean, if this is a poll, what is the fieldwork dates? What is the sample size? These are not available, because, as said, this is not a poll, but rather an aggregate of polls. On The Madad website it is explicitly written that the prediction is based on polling averages - To quote: "על פי ממוצע משוקלל של הסקרים" ("Based on weighted polling average"). Can we put this argument to rest? Rami R 17:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * If it is "based on all the other polls published on television, radio stations, and newspapers," then it really shouldn't be included in the polling table. At the very least, there should be a note explaining that it is not a survey, but instead is based on aggregated data from other polls. If I'm not mistaken, some articles on opinion polling have separate tables for "polls of polls," so that could be an option here as well. Jacoby531 (talk) 18:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * hey Jacoby, that's a really good idea. Would anyone object if it was in a separate section? Thanks to everyone for their thoughts Eatabullet (talk) 18:53, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't object, but I'm not sure how important this section is. If you do that, then 103fm also does a poll of polls every Friday on Nissim Mish'al's programme. ערן117 (talk) 09:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * hi. Thanks for your support. I'm thinking "Poll of Polls" type entries can be a subsection of the "Scenario Polls" section, which can be retitled Scenario and Other Polls (or any other appropriate name that can be agreed on).


 * Would that work for everyone? I don't mind doing the editing, but I'd rather be sure that it won't be removed over objections before commencing.


 * Also Eran117, is there a link for the 103fm poll? I typically get my information from Times of Israel, Jpost, Arutz Sheva and Haaretz so if it's not there I likely missed it. Thank you Eatabullet (talk) 22:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * BTW Sorry about the wierd indentation on my last reply. I have no idea why it's formatted like that. Eatabullet (talk) 22:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Link to last Friday's 103fm poll of polls. They have one every Friday.
 * If your reply has more than one line, you need colons in the beginning of every new line. I fixed that for you. :) ערן117 (talk) 12:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Minor parties
Should we add a graph of the minor parties since February? Braganza (talk) 16:45, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I find it unnecessary. The graph we have is enough. These parties are less interesing anyway. ערן117 (talk) 12:35, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

sample size and margin of error
It would be very useful and helpful to include sample sizes and margin of error where available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.75.169 (talk) 21:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

direct polls citation
the march 2021 opinion polls by direct polls should cite their twitter post not srugim as it does not include all the data https://twitter.com/Direct_Polls/status/1372820874362036226 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.75.169 (talk) 22:25, 3 February 2022 (UTC)