Talk:Oppression

Editorializing and globalize notice
This page reads like an editorial, as there are unsourced statements and weasel words made throughout the article. I'll provide some examples below:

''Such can occur within women, as second-wave feminism disproportionately focused on white women and their respective issues rather than women as a whole. This led to black women and the higher level of economic challenges they were faced with being unaddressed, and often uplifted women only in a racially privileged position. By not fighting the presuppositions of racism, these actors in the women's movement failed to address their oppression at its root, simultaneously flighting for the issues of white women and accepting the societal structures which held black women down.''

''Nonetheless, more fully understanding the problem remains an extremely complicated challenge for scholars. Improved understanding will likely involve, for example, comprehending more completely the historical antecedents of current social oppression; the commonalities (and lack thereof) among the various social groups damaged by social oppression (and the individual human beings who make up those groups); and the complex interplay between and amongst sociocultural, political, economic, psychological, and legal forces that cause and support oppression.''

''Class is a social ranking system which is based on income, wealth, education, status, and power. A class is a large group of people who share similar economic or social positions based on their income, wealth, property ownership, job status, education, skills, and power in the economic and political sphere. The most commonly used class categories include: upper class, middle class, working class, and poor class. A majority of people in the United States self-identify in surveys as middle class, despite vast differences in income and status. Class is also experienced differently depending on race, gender, ethnicity, global location, disability, and more. Class oppression of the poor and working class can lead to deprivation of basic needs and a feeling of inferiority to higher-class people, as well as shame towards one's traditional class, race, gender, or ethnic heritage.''

''Historically, gender oppression occurred through actual legal domination and subordination of men over women. Although the legal and civil position of women has greatly improved over the years especially in Western countries, this is arguably not enough.''

''Though individual barriers, such as small actions resulting of social roles and expectations, may not provide too much of a barrier for any one woman, the interweaving of many of said actions through each day and each year eventually builds a net which very well might hold a woman in place, and keep her in the role she is ordered to maintain. One example of such an action is the act of a man holding the door open for a woman. On one hand, this might seem a kind gesture, and in many situations it is, however, Frye writes that men will often hold the door for a woman despite it being an inconvenient and unnecessary act. For instance, she writes that "men burdened with packages will open doors for able-bodied women." While the immediate effect of such actions may only be mild confusion, over a lifetime the true suggestion is that women are unable to do such a simple thing for themselves. Men impose on themselves a pointless task in order to fulfill a superior social role, mocking women's strength and inability while gaining superficial moral high-ground. While many superficial services are thrown at women at no-request, men simultaneously have little to no social expectation to help with household chores, or other work that is often considered "feminine." (no citations in this example at all by the way)''

Et cetera, et cetera. I don't necessarily disagree with these statements, but this is a clear breach of MOS:EDITORIAL and WP:OR.

Furthermore, I added a globalize notice in the second section as it focuses almost exclusively on oppression in the United States. Oppression exists throughout the world, yet this page instead puts undue focus on American culture and policy.

I would like to have discussions on these issues so that we can further improve this page. I understand that it's very difficult not to lean into original research with a subject as abstract and complex as oppression, but this page has way too much of it and needs to be worked on. I understand that many Wikipedia users are from the west, but oppression is not just limited to the United States and should not be focused on so heavily. Pac-Man PHD (talk) 05:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I think you're certainly right about the weasel words. With a few examples, it appears that they can just be removed and the sentence still has the same meaning. I've noticed that with a lot of these articles are mostly edited by advocates who need a bit of work on their tone. —Panamitsu (talk) 05:58, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Fountain image: "gay only"and "straight only"
This appears to be some sort of student art piece, not an actual example of segregation. It would be highly inappropriate for this article. Pharos (talk) 02:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I think that image was a bit off regardless as it would be more suitable for some article about segregation, and the most common example of segregation is race-based in the United States. —Panamitsu (talk) 03:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Community Economic and Social Development II
— Assignment last updated by Gurnaaz11 (talk) 02:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)