Talk:Orangism

Aughavey 3 July 2005 16:31 (UTC)

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I don`t think you can say the Orange Order is largely unrelated. The Order is named after King William of Orange, of the house of Orange.

It is largely unrelated. Orangism in the Netherlands is a popular royalist sentiment, while in Northern Ireland it is the ideology of Protestants who trace their idendity back to the Glorious Revolution. The Glorious Revolution happened to be led by William III of Orange. Interesting to note is that he had no rights to the British throne whatsoever. Mary, the rightful queen (James II being deposed by parliament), only wanted to rule if William became joint ruler. William in turn only became king because English forces were most welcome in his incessant wars against France. For William the Orangemen were just handy manpower, a force that could defend his rule against James II. I don't think that he did connect with the Orangemen's cause when it came to fighting the Irish Catholics in general. The Orangemen just admired him and named their organizations after him --84.26.109.69 14:51, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose merging Orangism (Netherlands), Orangism (Belgium) and Orangism (Luxembourg) into Orangism–this page. Orangism might have taken different forms in the three countries, but were in essence the same: support for the House of Orange-Nassau. The three articles are relatively short and unlikely to be expanded extensively. The new article should look something like this (not including the navbox at the bottom). Luxorr (talk) 09:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose for now. I think we should first disentangle the Orangism in the Dutch Republic (support for the Stadholder against the States) from its post-1815 incarnation (support for the Kingdom). Then, we can merge at least Orangism (Belgium) and Orangism (Luxembourg). Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 12:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

, I'm pretty much done with the disentangling bit. It looks to me like all the 19th century "Orangisms" have their own separate histories, but I wouldn't strongly oppose merging the stubs Orangism (Belgium) and Orangism (Luxembourg) which are very similar concepts. Your call, unless anyone else objects. Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 22:22, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Sounds fair enough. What should the article be called? Luxorr (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2015 (UTC)