Talk:Order of Canada

Conrad Black
Conrad Black is listed as a member, although he has renounced his Canadian citizenship. If someone can remain a member despite no longer being a Canadian citizen, that deserves mention in the eligibility criteria. Grover cleveland (talk) 01:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Margaret Thompson
The anon User:75.159.1.136 has five times now added a segment about some Dr. Margaret Thompson and her membership in the Order of Canada being the subject of a petition for her removal or the "Awards committee" is considering removing her from the order due to "her involvement with the Alberta Eugenics Board and her approval of forced sterilizations and unnecessary castrations for research, all of which have been considered crimes against humanity since the Nuremburg Trials." This has been reverted by three users, including myself, but the anon persists.

In researching, I've found some corroborating evidence that Thompson was indeed a member of the Alberta Eugenics Board and is now a member of the Order of Canada (see testimony here). However, there seems to be zero sign of a petition or that the Order of Canada advisory panel is considering revoking her scrolls. Plus, the anon's addition is rife with POV and irrelevancies.

On those grounds, I think the anon should cease revert warring until better sources can be provided. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  18:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

A detailed factual account of Dr. Thompson's outrageous misconduct can be found in Madam Justice Veit's decision Muir v. the Queen in right of Alberta D.L.R. (4th) 695  Court file No. 8903 20759, Alberta Court of Queen's Bench, Veit, J  January 25, 1996. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.181.120.98 (talk) 22:20, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

A copy of the Petition to remove Dr. Margaret Thompson is on file with the Eugenics Archive program at the University of Alberta. Dr. Rob Wilson is the head of the Eugenics Archive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.158.108.140 (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Great. So, provide it. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  17:40, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

FA concerns
This article has some concerning aspects for a FA quality article, namely referencing issues in some places, short paragraphs and short subsections, some wholly unreferenced parts, short lede/intro that does not conform to WP:LEAD, and could use an image review. I'd recommend working on these issues, or perhaps the best place to address them would be at WP:FAR. If users involved in the article's maintenance do not object, I could identify problem areas regarding referencing in the article, by adding fact tags. -- Cirt (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been a few years since it went to FA, so anything you can suggest and do to help us retain that status would be grateful. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What does "FA" mean? – AndyFielding (talk) 05:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * FA stands for featured article. Indefatigable (talk) 13:47, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Reference to the petition for the removal of Dr. Margaret Thompson can be found at: http://eugenicsarchive.ca/docs/October2011events.doc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.181.120.98 (talk) 22:36, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Museum's page
I've created a new page List of Order of Canada insignia displayed in Museums to make note of where medals of the Order of Canada appear in a museum's exhibits. I have added the ones that I am aware of. If anyone can find anymore please add them to the list Dowew (talk) 00:14, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Featured article review for Order of Canada
nominated Order of Canada for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Brad (talk) 01:02, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Category:1967 in Canadian music
I wonder if User:Argolin could explain here what relevance this article on a national civil order has to a Canadian music category. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  13:58, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

New constitution
I am a little confused by the new wording of the order's constitution. S.9(2) states that "In addition to any Governor General and his or her spouse and any former Governor General and that former Governor General's spouse, a member of the Royal Family may be appointed as an extraordinary Companion, Officer or Member", which reads as though governors general and their spouses are not automatically appointed to any grade of the order and may never be (only the governor general becomes ex-officio Chancellor and Principal Compainion during his or her time in office).

Further on, in S.12(3), it's said "An appointment of any Governor General or his or her spouse or former Governor General or that former Governor General's spouse as a Companion is deemed to be an appointment as an extraordinary Companion." Well, does that mean that anyone who was appointed as a Companion before they became governor general doesn't become an extraordinary Companion when appointed as governor general? Or, is the current governor general, his wife, and all living former governors general and their spouses now considered to be extraordinary Companions?

Perhaps someone can figure it out. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  23:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm shocked to hear that spouses of governors general are given this honour. For no better reason than that they married the right person.  Awards recognising a spouse's achievements in his or her own right are different, of course. --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  01:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

another removal
In case this is needed

Order of Canada « New Search B. Norman Barwin, C.M., M.D., F.R.C.C. Full Name 	Honour Received 	Residence B. Norman Barwin, C.M., M.D., F.R.C.C. C.M. 	Nepean Honour 	Appointment 	Investiture Member of the Order of Canada 	November 14, 1996 	April 16, 1997 His work as a gynecologist, researcher and medical educator has had a profound impact on both the biological and psycho-social aspects of women's reproductive health. The Planned Parenthood movement and the Infertility Awareness Association of Canada have benefited greatly from his expertise and support in their efforts to provide information on family building and infertility treatment options. He has helped to increase understanding among the general public, government and the medical community of the importance of the family unit in society.

Further on Precedence
I don't know beans about this, but there seems a contradiction between the lead paragraph's phrases "second highest honour for merit," "comes second only to membership in the Order of Merit," and the Creation section saying, "Among the civilian awards of the Canadian honours system, the Order of Canada comes third, after the Cross of Valour and membership in the Order of Merit." Can it be both second and third at the same time? Egmonster (talk) 04:57, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The Cross of Valour is for bravery, not merit. Ergo, appointment to the order of Canada is the third highest civilian honour and second highest honour for merit. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  07:16, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

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Section with notable members, or link to list of notable members?
I found this page after reading the Malcolm Gladwell article and seeing the curious CM under his name in the infobox. I read the article and noticed that there's no section about notable members. There is a listing of the first inducted members from 1967, and even a listing of the committee members, but no listing of notable members, including Mr. Gladwell and Lorne Michaels, of Saturday Night Live fame. I added a link to the page giving a listing of members, and updated the member count, which was a year old. Should there be listing of notable members in the article, or perhaps a separate article that is just a list of notable members? Timtempleton (talk) 19:26, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

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