Talk:Order of Saint Michael of the Wing

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IT SEAMS THAT THERE ARE ANOTHER ORDER OF ST MICHAEL OF THE WING IN PORTUGAL, OFFICIALY AND LEGALY CONSTITUTED UNDER THE PORTUGUESE LAWS. THE GRAND MASTER IT'S THE DEPUTY TO THE NATION NUNO DA CAMARA PEREIRA. THIS ORDER PERFORMS INVESTITURES AND MEETINGS, ONE OF THE LAST ONES TOKE PALCE AT THE CASTLE OF GUIMARÃES. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.250.49.205 (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Help Needed
Recently, I have had the opportunity of working on the Saint Michael of the Wing site. However, even with the addition of three third party references the site needs additional work. I am hoping that some Portuguese scholars or historians will add additional work and references.

Royalhistorian (talk) 11:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Information Posted has been corrected accordingly after consultation with the Vice-Chancellor for Foreign Affairs.

Dr. Carlos, has done an excellent job in working up the data. However, there is still a need for someone to correct the spelling and English grammar. It will take about 10 minutes but I am at present far too busy. However, on my next visit, it is still wanting, I will jump in and help the problem.

Carl Edwin Lindgren, FCP, FCollT, FSA Scot, FRAS World Academy of Art and Science. 96.18.3.225 (talk) 04:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Not 8th of May, not 1147
The taking of Santarem did not occur on the 8th of May, but the 15th of March as is stated in many contemporary sources. The Order hence was not founded in imminent conjunction with the battle, but a couple of months later. Further, the Order of St James was founded in 1170. If the Order of St Michael was founded to honour Knights of St James, as the cross indicates, then the Order must have been founded 1170-1171 at the earliest. Also, many scholars between 17th-18th Century give the founding year as 1171. The difference in the Gregorian and Julian Calendars are not so big as 24 years so it does not account for the difference between 1147 and 1171. 213.112.9.112 (talk) 22:34, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Second this opinion. The sources from 17th Century and onwards talk about 1171, and it is clear that the taking of Santarem occurred 15th of March. This should be revised. �--Jonar242 (talk) 14:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)