Talk:Oreimo

Airing dates
Why it's okay to mention October 3 and it's wrong to mention December 26? Hellerick (talk) 13:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not really wrong, just it's generally convention to keep the second field empty (or hidden) to display "ongoing" while it is still airing.--  十  八  22:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Incorporate both? Helpspoke (talk) 23:37, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Shorter title
Can anybody provide a proof, that "Ore Imō" is the official short title of the show? According to the Japanese article the short title is "俺の妹" ("Ore no Imōto"). "Oreimo" (not "Ore Imō") is used, but its status seems dubious. Hellerick (talk) 08:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. If there is an absolute need to move the title to a shorter one then it should be "俺の妹" ("Ore no Imōto"). Furthermore the move was done without a discussion taking place first... Helpspoke (talk) 23:37, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Reverted. ɳ OCTURNE ɳ OIR ♯ ♭ 00:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oreimo is what's used by Anime News Network, who streamed the anime. You can basically look at it as the Western abbreviation for the show.

Review(s)

 * ANN: Right Turn Only import review DVD review
 * Chris Beveridge review
 * Otaku USA Magazine

--KrebMarkt (talk) 19:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC) Extremepro (talk) 13:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)


 * http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/oreimo-complete-limited-edition-dvd-box/sub.dvd --Gwern (contribs) 15:51 5 October 2011 (GMT)


 * Publishers Weekly review--Gabriel Yuji (talk) 23:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Genres
Currently, the genre field of the infobox list this as "Drama, Romantic comedy". The comedy aspect of the series is abundantly clear after watching half way through the series. But I see no evidence of it being a romantic comedy much less a drama. Going through the English language sources, the only genre that is mentioned is comedy. The source cited for the other two genres on the ANN's Encyclopedic is, and I quote, "Read it". That is not verification. Therefore, I'm trimming down the genres to comedy as cited by ANN's announcements about the TV series. —Farix (t &#124; c) 00:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Apparently, an IP editor has left a rather nasty personal attack in one of my talk page archives about the remove of drama and romance from the genre list and requiring that the genres be proven. WP:Verifiability is policy and is non-negotiable. And any information that is challenged must be backed up by reliable source. If you cannot back up your "fact" with a reliable source, then there is no way for anyone else to verify that the "fact" is true or not. —Farix (t &#124; c) 01:42, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Isn't it worth mentioning that the series tries to make incest banal? Jeandeve (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

That is not useful encyclopedic information, I personally love the series but the information in the article has to be supported by reliable sources jean. Hastengeims (talk) 19:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Title
Shouldn't the title be Oreimo now that an authorized translation has been released? Kauffner (talk) 05:33, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oreimo is just an unofficial, shorthand abbreviation that's quite commonly used. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 05:48, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * To clarify: In Japan, it's quite common for fans and magazines to abbreviate anime titles to two kanji or a few syllables, especially if the original title is quite long; e.g. Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai -> Haganai, Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai -> Oreimo, Girls und Panzer -> Garupan, Oniichan dakedo Ai sae Areba Kankeinai yo ne! -> Oniai. --  李博杰  &#124; —Talk contribs email 05:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The manga is published in English with that title: . So is the anime: . ー HigherFive Ｔ Ｃ 06:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The entire title is still present on both media, though.--  十  八  07:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The article's current romaji title does not appear on the cover of the translation. You are referring to the Japanese script? I hardly think that can be considered part of the English-language title. Kauffner (talk) 08:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * In the opening of the episode 11 of the TV series the title is romanized as "Oreno imoutoga konnani kawaii wekeganai". Yeah, rather weird. Hellerick (talk) 13:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Talk:My Darling is a Foreigner A precedent for adding punctuation, orthography, grammar, capitalization and whatever else where the official spelling is lacking. MOSFILM and the like all say pretty much the same thing. elvenscout742 (talk) 08:26, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Character section
Let's discuss whether or not to split the character section into its own article. Does anyone agree, or is it just too short? I've seen shorter character lists which have separate article, so what about Oreimo? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:40, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I personally don't believe splitting just for the sake of splitting, i.e., just to get it off the main article. The whole character section comprises about 1/3 of this article's content, and this article is by no means a large article. This article is not even 40K yet with the character section, and WP:SIZESPLIT clearly states that length alone does not justify a split in this case.--  十  八  22:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested Move: → Oreimo

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved according to request. - Penwhale &#124; dance in the air and follow his steps 22:57, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

– The article title of a manga "is usually the official English translation," per MOS:MANGA. The English-language translation was released to the North American market in January under the proposed title, according to ANN. Here is an image of the book cover. The video is being sold under this title by Aniplex. The proposed title was commonly used long before it was official, for example by the Honolulu Star - Advertiser. Kauffner (talk) 10:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai → Oreimo
 * List of Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai episodes → List of Oreimo episodes

Survey

 * Support - According to Amazon.com, "the official English translation" (MOS:MANGA) of the manga was published as Oreimo by Dark Horse Comics. 123.224.194.92 (talk) 18:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - not only is the current title difficult to type (it's quite long), but also even ANN uses it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:12, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Support WP:UE -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 23:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Support and speedy close Uncontroversial, obvious. elvenscout742 (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * If anyone doesn't mind, I'll boldly move it myself; however, given that I !voted here, I'm not sure if anyone will agree. Any thoughts? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:50, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * An administrator is needed to move the main article to the new name.--  十  八  10:17, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, an admin will close the discussion after the appropriate amount of time has passed.--Cúchullain t/ c 17:35, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Support AnthonyJ Lock (talk) 11:05, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Adding incest in the genre box
I think it is pretty clear to the viewers that the show promotes incest by having the Kosaka siblings kiss in the final episode of the series. Additionally, the article has been categorized in the "incest in fiction" section at the very bottom of the page. Is there any plausible reason as to WHY "incest" isn't added to the genre box? I don't think it's necessary to list any citations for that theme, since it's blatantly obvious if you've watched the show. I'd like the input of others regarding this matter. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 11:38, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Incest isn't an genre. —Farix (t &#124; c) 14:16, 2 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Is this page, Aki Sora, putting the wrong genres in its genre box, then? Just trying to make sure. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 14:56, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I've removed it along with the harem genre because the latter wasn't cited. Genres tend to be one of the biggest problem areas for original research. —Farix (t &#124; c) 16:52, 2 October 2016 (UTC)


 * And now there ain't no genres in Aki Sora! How will people know what kind of a show it is now? Just by looking at the picture? Maybe they could log onto ANN instead... I dunno, man. I need your input on this. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 23:23, 2 October 2016 (UTC)


 * No genres listed is not a problem and far better than having genres that fail WP:V. Though "line-crossing" could be added to the lead sentence as that is repeated numerous times in coverage. —Farix (t &#124; c) 00:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

The "10 years later and Kyousuke and Ruri having 3 kids" / "Oreimo: Kuroneko" manga
I have read the Light Novels,the 'Momentary Chance Encounter', and the other smaller novels. I confirm there wasn't any state of Kyousuke and Kuroneko meeting up 10 years later and then having 3 kids. If this is from either the manga, PSP games, or any of the spin-offs, I propose to explicitly state how and where was such info taken and place. I disagree with the edits of Knowledgekid87, since he didn't state where exactly such info was taken and denying my change done of cannon info taken directly from the Light Novels and not just the anime. --Freexavier (talk) 04:49, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Can you back up where in the novels each event takes place then? I provided a reference for my source, now please do the same in kind. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:53, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * If you can prove the storyline through reliable references then it would really be a big help. We cant go by the anime storyline though as a primary source. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 05:01, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Mhm... I see. I sadly haven't read it, so I cannot confirm of its exact connection to the light novels, but seems to be at the end of the Volume 5. Could you pass me the info of where exactly is this page and which volume? For now, I propose to have it re-edited and separate it into a new different paragraph, because it doesn't correctly connects with the paragraph, since the info taken from "Oreimo" Kuroneko" is inserted with along side with the Light Novels, which will create confusion of how which info is from which, since the manga "Oreimo: Kuroneko" is a spin-off as stated in the site of Dark Horse Comics and is not a continuation of the end of Volume 12 of the Light Novels. As for the "Oreimo: Kuroneko Volume 4", it seems to arc from the end of the Volume 5 of the Light Novels and "Oreimo Season 1, Episode 15", judging by its description. But nonetheless, to be safe, I just suggest you have it set into a separate paragraph. An example as follows: "In the series spin-off series "Oreimo: Kuroneko", after the break up, she dates Kyosuke for over summer vacation before breaking up with him as not to upset Kirino, but he tells her to wait for him. Ten years later the couple are married, and have three children together." This way, it's a win-win situation. The other paragraphs that don't state anything of where there info are from are silently understood of being taken from the canon source material; the Light Novels. By inserting the story of "Oreimo: Kuroneko", it adds the confusion of it either being the canon source materal story or the spin-off series. --Freexavier (talk) 05:36, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I can agree to that, "Oreimo: Kuroneko" is an extension of the original manga series as "Oreimo" (manga) ends about the time Kirino comes back from America. I haven't read the light novel here so I cant confirm where or how the original story ends. I know though that quite often the anime steers away from the written works (you see this referenced in the anime with Kirino's work btw). The light novel would come first, then the manga series, and lastly the anime when it comes to the main storyline we should use. Mentions of other works can be used if the story lines differ significantly. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:26, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I haven't read the manga, but by going with what you described of the manga ending in where Kirino returns to the US, then I can assure you Kirino exactly returned from the US in the end of Volume 5 of the light novels, but the light novels extends all the way to Volume 12. The dating and break up of Kyousuke and Kuroneko had happened in Volume 8 of the light novels. SPOILERS OF THE LIGHT NOVELS START HERE As for what had happened in the next Volumes, the significant parts of Volume 9 was about a backstory of Saori and Kyousuke helping Kirino reach a concert of Meruru, whiles parts of it involved the other side characters Kouhei and Sena. As for Volume 10, it was about Kyousuke living alone until he gets an A in the exams to be able to return home and Ayase's confession of love to him, which was left as a cliff hanger in Vol. 10 without an answer. For Volume 11, it was a story entirely focused on the backstory of Kyousuke's childhood of an accident that occurred and how he came to be. And finally for Volume 12, it involved a flash back of his rejection to Ayase, confronting Kuroneko that he was in love with someone else, and Kyousuke confessing to Kirino. SPOILERS OF LIGHT NOVELS ENDS HERE So, the "Oreimo: Kuroneko" isn't a spin-off continuation of the end of the source material, being Vol. 12, but instead a spin-off that arcs away at a certain part of the series, being around Vol. 5 to Vol. 8 of the light novels. I'm completely fine by all means to include info about how the spin-off ends, but my main issue with it was that it was conflicting with the source material. We needed to have the spin-off distinguished from the light novels, since it does go route off mid of the series. And to ensure, I am not taking the anime as these source of reference, but the from the light novels themselves. And as an extra, the anime adapted and followed exactly with the light novels, which of course there were some small changes and removed chunks, since it is an adaptation after all. As for now, I'm currently fine with the edits that 'Juhachi' done, which is putting clear info of it taken from the "Oreimo: Kuroneko" manga series. Although, I would still improve further upon it, which I will possibly do later. I can now see why you're confused to a degree of how all the series connects, which understandable. I can further help you clear out some confusion. - Freexavier (talk) 03:08, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Im not surprised with the light novel's ending. If Kyousuke winds up with Kirino in the original work/story then that is what we should be writing about. From what you are telling me it sounds like the manga series, and the light novel agree for the most part up until volume 8. "Oreimo: Kuroneko" picks up where "Oreimo" left off, and has the two dating which ends in a breakup. The difference is when Kyousuke says yes to wanting to date Kuroneko again. The anime/light novel split off into the Kirino direction, while both manga series goes towards Kuroneko. We could include both for neutrality though. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I suppose that we have everything pretty much cleared up. The distinguishing of the light novels and manga being resolved. I learned a thing or two about the manga series as a result, which will be helpful in the future. As of now, I have no other topics to discuss about. I had edited the title of the section for other users in the future to understand the main section's topic - Freexavier (talk) 04:39, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Expansion needed
If anyone out there understands Japanese, then it would be a great help to translate the Japanese wiki article for expansion here. I did a rough Google translate of the content, and found author's comments about the work that are tied to reliable sources. This info would be great for a "conception" section. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:31, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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16
the second season of oreimo has 16 episodes, please update the information Hastengeims (talk) 16:26, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Oreimo plot :3
https://somoskudasai.com/noticias/cultura-otaku/oreimo-celebra-el-cumpleanos-de-kirino-kousaka/ here I leave a reliable source in another language about the oreimo plot please add that for reference, I can't do it myself Hastengeims (talk) 16:04, 23 September 2021 (UTC)