Talk:Orel (spacecraft)

More sources needed
This article is based almost exclusively on Anatoly Zak's writings. I know that he's a great author and knows what he's talking about. I also understand that information about the project is hard to get. But I still think that we really need more sources. Offliner (talk) 22:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Project was cancelled
at least according to. Regards, --Flominator (talk) 19:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

That article only says that the Rus-M launcher was cancelled, not PTK NP. Current plans imply that the new Angara A5 launcher will be used. Rob (talk) 21:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Toilet
Where would mention of the sanitary facilities go? -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 11:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Status as of 2015?
What is the status of this project in early 2015? Is it still a live project? Has any hardware ever been built? Tested?

From the sources currently in the article, it appears this may have been a mostly paper design effort that never got full funding to enter into a formal development program. Does anyone have any current sources? N2e (talk) 21:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Translation of the name
Russian name is Перспективная Пилотируемая Транспортная Системаtivnaya. When you translate just Перспективная word it's shown as "promising". Where did "Prospective" come from? is it in official reports ?--Guyver (talk) 22:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

First Flight
Is planned for 2021. - http://spacenews.com/roscosmos-confirms-plans-to-reduce-space-station-crew/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.100.196.168 (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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Change name of article
Most of time we refer to Soviet/Russian spacecraft by their Russian names: Mir, Soyuz, Sputnik, Zond, Vostok, etc. While there are a few exceptions, such as the Progress unmanned space cargo vehicle, most of the time we use the Russian names. That is why I think we should change the name of the Article to "Federatsiya (spacecraft)." I would like to know what others think about this.--WPatrickW (talk) 23:31, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Spacecraft was given a new name "Orel" (en:"Eagle") 1. Jirka.h23 (talk) 06:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Correct. It was renamed Orel . This is a non-controversial move. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Federation is a spacecraft model name, like Starliner, Crew Dragon, Orion etc. Orel is the name of first trial spacecraft (mission). It will use Soyuz-5 rocket in Irtysh, single-core, configuration for near-Terra missions and Yenisei and Don, 5-core configurations, for lunar missions. . Elk Salmon (talk) 21:16, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right, the article says that the new Russian spacecraft would continue to be called the “Federation”, but the very first flight model would receive the name “Orel” in honor of the first Russian frigate built by Emperor Peter I. Title of the article should be renamed back. Jirka.h23 (talk) 17:45, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 4 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Orel (spacecraft) → Federatsiya – Orel is only the name for the first ship in Federatsiya series, as stated in the previous discussion. Esmu Igors (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Iffy★Chat -- 10:01, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Notified others who may be interested about this on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight. OkayKenji (talk page) 04:49, 17 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Move to "Federation (spacecraft)" per WP:COMMONNAME. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:08, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. According to the article's own sources, the current name is Orel, and it was formerly known as Federatsiya. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Amakuru. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 10:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


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Correct transliteration of the name
The Cyrillic letter Yo (Ё) is almost always transliterated as "yo" because that is how it is typically pronounced with few exceptions, and it is no exception in the name "Oryol". It doesn't make sense for the article to be named "Orel", as well as having the correct transliteration in the opening sentence, as it just serves to confuse people unfamiliar with the Russian language. Sslaptnhablhat (talk) 15:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)