Talk:Oreo/Archive 1

This article is marketing
This page is used for marketing purposes. Suggestions: 1. Perhaps someone could add here on the talk page _why_ this "oreo" is notable and of encyclopedic value? 2. Make the article less tempting (avoiding front-page closeups of a, to me, unknown but too often seen cookie). 3. Maybe a feature to see which pages link to here, as a first step towards shaming the blogs and sites who link here, to clean up their act? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SiBo (talk • contribs) 07:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you serious? You think that the Oreo is unknown? I don't know about elsewhere, but it is one of the most popular cookies in the US. This is certainly noteworthy, just like frito-lay, kellogs, etc. 72.237.55.2 (talk) 21:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It is obviously marketing. But I (a non US person) am currently watching the first episode of the TV series Monk; at one point they talk about these biscuits I never heard of before. This article was a little useful for me. Of course I would prefer a more critical article. But from the way they talk about it in Monk, it is obviously part of popular culture. Terrible culture, I admit, all the more easily since I only eat organic food and would probably hate these cookies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.171.26.96 (talk) 22:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it may be viewed as marketing, and as such quite interesting, but also as nostalgia, since many Americans remember eating Oreos with milk, or dipping them in milk, as children. The double creme filling Oreos may well have developed by the Nabisco people observing children or adults making their own double filling Oreos by pulling them apart, eating the parts without the stuffing, and putting the ones with stuffing together with twice the creme. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, your unnecessarily dissenting on Americans and Oreos for no reason other than your not American, and have never heard of Oreos. Guess the American ideals spread with globalism. 72.199.100.223 (talk) 01:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Its the most popular cookie in the world, that makes it notable.  D r e a m Focus  04:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It is clearly notable, but it does read as an advert. Seriously, shouldn't this page include nutritional information like something about the 140 calories per 2 cookies? Jack mcdowell (talk) 20:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Article Clean-up
I noticed that much of the article was unsourced and grammatically incorrect, so I've begun a re-write, sourcing information.139.184.30.18 17:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

Right. I've managed to write a new, condensed introduction, and moved most of what was in the original introduction into new sections for History (which I've expanded), Production, Consumption, and a section for Trivia at the end. I've also re-written the Varieties section making it clearer. I don't like having two separate sections for 'As an ingredient' and 'Variations or adaptations' and was hoping that someome who knows more about Oreos would merge them, as I don't know much about this area. I've also added a few more links throughout the article to hope that the citation box at the top of the page may be removed at some point 139.184.30.18 19:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Finally signed in (God I'm lazy). "User:139.184.30.18", that's me. Thankfully no-one disagreed with my total rewrite of this article. PseudoNym 21:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Since my extensive rewrite the article seems to be heading downhill. A trivia entry in an encyclopaedia article is not permitted by Wikipedia. Similarly, the section on its references in popular culture is getting far too long. Not all of these are needed. just because an oreo was mentioned on TV for example, does not mean that the information had to be included here. A prose entry along the lines of 'Because of their popularity, many references to Oreos are made in popular culture...' and then including only the most important/prominent. Pseud o Nym (Contact me)  13:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Oreo cake?
What about Oreo Cake? It's this stuff that is sold around here and supposedly a tall cake which you can bake and it looks like a giant Oreo--Cctoide 16:29, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How did they pick the name Oreo? I think this should be mentioned. Mike H 02:20, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * *eating Oreos* "Idunno." lysdexia 11:34, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The National Biscuit Company does not know (as they do not know the name origins of a bunch of their products), since there was no written down explanation or spoken knowledge passed down about it's name since it's birth. One belief is that it derives from the French or or "gold", another saying that the name comes from the Greek oreo or "mountain", and another belief is that it was derived from taking the "re" out of "cream" and putting it between the two "o"s in "chocolate". These are not the only beliefs, but perhaps the best known.

"There are two schools of Oreo eaters; there is some contention between the school holds that the correct way to eat an Oreo cookie is to twist apart the wafers so that the filling sticks to one of them, and eat the filling first."


 * I hope this is a joke! Are there civilized people who do this?! :-) It was one of the first things my mom taught me not to do. Right after potty training I guess ;^) Arvindn 03:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I don't think anybody seriously holds it to be the only correct way, but many people do eat them that way. In fact, I usually do unless I dunk them in milk. - Furrykef 03:28, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * I would say that there are two different schools of Oreo eaters, but nothing too disputed to include a section in the article, or even a mentioning. By the way, the only way I eat an Oreo is by twisting it. Slof 04:15, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Vegan Question
It seems that, depending on where you live, Oreo cookies may or may not be Vegan. PETA lists them as being "Accidently Vegan", however a deeper Google search seems to indicate that in some areas it contains whey, in some areas it does not, and they seem to change the recipe quite regularly. For the interested, a Vegan alternative is Newman-O's. :) 67.161.208.117 06:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Golden Oreos are vegan all over the U.S., I think. The same goes for Oreos with chocolate creme, I think. Ralphael 21:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Where I live, (Sussex, New Brunswick, Canada) you can generally find two packages of Oreos. They don't seem to look any different from each other, though one has a small green tag promising zero transfats. The transfat-lacking package lists modified palm, soy lecithin, and some other stuff as its ingredients; the other one lists things like modified milk ingredients. Being vegan, it made me debate my eating of Oreos, but it seems the transfat-free ones are okay. -- Soviet Dolphin

I seem to recall from somewhere... that the whey-containing oreos (at least in the states) were being phased out (I think it was in 2005) in favor of a consistent recipe (that didn't contain whey). From where I've been (upstate New York, SoCal, NorCal) all "regular" oreo varieties are vegan now, with exception of the cakesters, milk chocolate covered, etc. Basically, anything that uses the regular cookies with the varying type of cream seem to be vegan now... If it turns out some still aren't in certain areas of the US or different countries, the trivia should be edited to that point. Faunablues 22:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Springtime?
They are sold at appropriate times of the year (orange at Halloween, red at Christmas, blue during springtime, etc.).

Am I the only person failing to see the connnection between 'blue' and 'springtime' ? Mullet 29 June 2005 22:50 (UTC)


 * It's a kind of pastel blue--just a happy, springtimey kind of color. Clear blue springtime skies are what come to mind for me. CrazyLegsKC 00:10, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Pastel blue, pink, green and yellow are traditional Easter (spring) colors. Makes perfect sense to use pastel blue filling at Easter time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.73.75.192 (talk) 14:40, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Mini Ice Cream Sandwiches
I think the poster omitted one type of Oreo. I remember for a time back in the late-80's/early-90's where Oreo had mini ice cream sandwiches. They came in a box with a plastic tray and were lined up like the cookies you buy. The tops/bottoms were the same size as the regular cookies but the filling was Oreo cookies and cream ice cream. They were great because you could eat as few or as many as you like.

Well, I found it on Kraft Foods Inc. website, in case someone wants to add it and source it. "The 1980s saw an expansion into the frozen snack category with Oreo brand Cookies ‘N Cream ice cream." http://www.kraft.com/100/innovations/oreo.html --Knightskye 06:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * There are too many different variations of Oreos to list them all I'm afraid 139.184.30.18 19:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

Note to first poster in this topic...I'm pretty sure that with ANY AND ALL food products you can choose to "eat as few or as many as you like." This isn't something unique to Oreos. I can choose to eat two potato chips or 200. Two slices of ham or 12. One can of Coke or four.

Racial term
As a racial term, does it also mean somebody who is "white on the outside, and black on the inside"? --SuperDude 01:20, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe that the "acting white" section does not belong in the Oreo cookies article. Gilliamjf 04:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It really has no place here. I'm removing it. --BDD 22:36, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Being that the article wigger does redirect to this page, it does seem like it would be appropriate to at least mention it in the article. And, if you're going to delete something from an article, just delete it, don't leave an artifact of it in the article itself.  Being that it seems there are a few of you against mentioning it, I won't restore it, but I think it should be reconsidered. SchnappM 05:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey what happened you completely deleted the whole section, instead of moving it elsewhere? gbrandt 19:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Um, the cookies are white on the inside and black on the outside, and I've heard of the term being used to mean a black kid who is "acting white" (reports from a high school in North Carolina). If it's a widespread phenomenon, maybe we should have a disambiguation page? Dusik 14:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

i think oreo as a racial term needs to have a short mention in popular culture or at least a link to an example of it being used Perry mason 23:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC) The term 'Oreo' has been used at least once in Law & Order describing Paul Robinette. I believe I heard it more than once, but I distinctly remember it happening in the first season. The term was also used in the first Mighty Ducks movie, describing a line (group of hockey players on a team that generally enter or leave play at the same time) as the 'Oreo line' since it involved two black players as wings (outer positions) and a white player as the center. This, obviously, is only racial to the point that the colour of their skin was pointed out. In addition, I believe I've heard in some media (tv or movie) the term used less personally derogitory and more in a subtle racism when used by white men (or women, though I don't recall an instance of that). When used, it is kin to saying 'You are a credit to your people', as if to say that they are a rare example of a quality member of the race.Paladin carvin (talk) 20:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The Urban Dictionary site seems like a perfect place for this racially insensitive term. But it has no place on a site such as Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.73.75.192 (talk) 14:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Is It Kosher?
I think that this is an incorrect use of paragraphs.

In this paragraph, the first sentence makes sense. However, those following seem to be non-sequitur, as I see no connection between "kosher" and hydrogenated oil. However, I'm not going to change it yet, since there may be a connection I'm unaware of. If there's no objection, I'll give it about a week and see if anyone can come up with anything. Bunthorne 20:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * In israel it is Kosher but other than that it isn't made kosher.

Large overhaul
I made a lot of changes in my recent edit.


 * Some inplausible and unsourced claims have been removed.
 * A contradiction within the article regarding the etymology of Oreo has been corrected.
 * Sections have been renamed, restructured, and combined in a more logical pattern.
 * Off-topic material in the racial use section was removed. We may want to just reference the list of ethnic slurs instead.

Naturally I don't expect everyone to be happy about all of this. Please voice any complaints if you have any. --BDD 23:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

add a picture
Can someone add a picture of a Oreo at the beginning of the article. MarioV 21:08, 19 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I would also like to know if and how I can add a picture of Christmas oreos, on the oreo page. I'd also just like to know how to add a picture in general. Could someone help me. (im flyers17) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phillyflyers17 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Other prejudice meanings?
I have family in the south who have told me that, around there at least, "Oreo" can be used as a racially derogatory term to describe someone who is of mixed race: either someone who is half white/half African American or someone who is half white/half Hispanic. A family member of mine has unusually dark skin and usually receives teasing about this from fellow classmates. Is this true? If so, should it be mentioned in the article? The only thing in the article that seems related to this is about African Americans who act white. Jelligraze 00:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've never heard that, but if you can find a citation for it, it would be appropriate for the article. -- MisterHand 01:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I can't find a citation for it, but I can confirm this (I live in Florida). Oreo could mean a mixed person, but it's usually understood to mean a black person who acts like the stereotypical white person. For example, I have a friend who's black and is quiet, reserved, likes anime, gets good grades, and speaks softly. He could be described as an Oreo. When you live in the south, you learn to live with rampant racism. Moose 00:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I think "Oreo" can translate to "Micheal Jackson"; we don't know if they're half-white or half-black.....75.26.192.96 03:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe place it on the disambiguation page? 139.184.30.18 19:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

No credible references...no place in the article. Anyone can just make up something like that, doesn't mean it's relevant or has any basis in fact.--Alafalula 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Above, I've given some roots of pop references for the 'black acting white' term, but I've never heard of it meaning a biracial person.Paladin carvin (talk) 20:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

the oreo theme song
[moved from the main article... not sure about it, could be integrated properly? — mæstro t/c, 14:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)] " ice cold milk and an oreo cookie they go together good forever its a classic combination O-R-E-O oh-oh "

Controlled substance
I removed this from the article: "Due to a clerical error, Oreo cookies briefly became a controlled substance in the United States in 1963. The Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 reestablished their status as a legal food product, though their psychoactive properties remain a controversial topic. " Can anyone find any proof of this? Rmhermen 20:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Oreo wafersticks
There doesn't seem to be any mention of Oreo wafersticks. Is this a product only available in Australia? Surely not. --Colourblind 01:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Never heard of them. But then, I haven't actually looked for them either.--Planetary 07:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Transfats to DIRT?
Is that right? Nabisco considered replacing transfats with... DIRT? That can't be right. If it is, surely there is a source?
 * Heh, that turned out to have been vandalism, which has been fixed. --Xyzzyplugh 14:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merger of Uh-Oh! Oreo into this article
I have proposed merging Uh-Oh! Oreo into this article. That article has pretty much the same content as the entry on said Oreos in this article, so I doubt that it will cause any controversy. Picaroon9288|ta co 04:07, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

However, the racial sense of Oreo has now been moved to a separate article (see disambig), so the Uh Oh redirect should go there too, not here! 86.131.90.255 20:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Oreo cereal
In the list of different types of Oreos (double stuffed, chocolat cream oreo etc.) Shouldn't there be the Oreo Cerial?? I thought that it should be mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.211.30.18 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oreo O's, although made by Oreo's parent division Kraft Foods, aren't actually part of the Oreo lineup. Picaroon9288|ta co 03:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Coffee oreos
I contacted Nabisco about Double Delight Coffee 'n Creme oreos and they told me they were discontinued (indeed, I haven't seen them in my local grocery store a while). I changed the oreo page to reflect this product discontinuation but someone reverted my changes. Any idea why? PhoenixJ 15:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Original research isn't allowed in wikipedia I'm afraid. all 'facts' need to be correctly cited to be proven true to some degree 139.184.30.18 20:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

REGULAR oreos!
It seems kind of funny that they would list all different kinds of oreos... except the original ones! (Please respond on my talk page.) tinlv7 18:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Original Oreos now included and section cleaned-up —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.184.30.18 (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

Double Stuf Oreo
Double Stuf Oreos have been around for much longer than 1997, at least in Canada. --PsychoJason 22:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay added the correct date. Will get a source soon 139.184.30.18 20:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The ORIGIN of 'Oreo'...incorrect?
I've heard many different versions on the origin of the name Oreo. A book I've read stated that no one is exactly sure how the cookie got it's name. Do you think we should change to origin to 'unsure'? Feel free to tell me what you think...Snowonster 04:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay sorted. Majority of theories each listed 139.184.30.18 20:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Seems to me that Oreo rhymes rather well with Diorio (as in Tom Diorio), as stated: "The idea for the Oreo cookie was first presented by Tom Diorio, a Nabisco employee, whose family had been making similar cookies for nearly a century." Yet, nothing is said for or against the possibility that the cookie is named after a play on the employee's name. Davidl9999 (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and his family had been making them for years! Isn't it pretty obvious? They probably said cut the Di and call them Orios, and just changed the spelling. The two O's as a cookie theory is just plain stupid. 72.199.100.223 (talk) 01:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Oreo color
While the outer shell is chocolate, what is the actual color of an Oreo cookie? It appears to be black, but many in my family are arguing that they in fact are dark brown. Can somebody clear this up?

68.42.244.36 15:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC) Kelly [thomaskfisher@charter.net]


 * Sorry to disappoint, but they are in fact dark drown. Very dark, mind you, but still brown not black. Pseud o Nym (Contact me)  13:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know what makes them so dark. Usually chocolate cookies come out as (chocolate) brown. As noted by the above posters Oreos are several shades darker. How come?99.11.160.111 (talk) 08:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The origin of 'Oreo' incorrect?, take two
I'm a Greek, and I can tell you that the translation is wrong. "Oreo" in fact means beautiful, nice, good etc in Greek, while the word for mountain is "Oros", or "Vuno". Someone should fix it, since I have no idea how to do it properly.--Nikitis 21:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

History section
In the history section it says that Oreos were created for the British market but then it goes on to say they were sold for 30 cents per pound. If they were sold in Britain then why is it in cents? In Britain we have never used cents for our currency. Also does anybody know if any stores in the UK sell Oreos? I love them but have never seen them sold here although heard that Sainsburys have them and also Costco, anybody know? America always has the nicest food :( XAndreWx 23:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * This has now been disambiguated. But the claim that Oreos were created for the British market seems very dubious to me.  It seems very unlikely to me that shipping cookies from New York to the UK was a plausible way to make money in 1912.  Would the cookies have had a long enough shelf life in 1912?  Companies rarely operated internationally in those days so even the idea of Nabisco setting up a UK operation seems rather far-fetched.  Is this source reliable? Dricherby (talk) 22:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Unbelievable Stats??
The quote on the batch size is improbable as it references some 65 MILLION pounds of ingredients in a single batch. If each cookie weighs as much as an ounce, there would be more than one BILLION cookies in a batch of that size. Since the referenced article states the Chicago facility makes (only) 4.6 billion cookies in a given year, the batch must be smaller, on the order or 65 THOUSAND lbs or 65 tons or something.

http://www.amusingfacts.com/facts/Detail/oreo-factory.html as a source,

'''The Oreo cookie is big. In lots of ways. The recipe for a "batch", uses 18 million pounds of cocoa, and 47 million pounds of crème filling. It works out to a cookie that is 71% biscuit, and 29% crème.

The largest cookie factory around, is the Nabisco facility in Chicago, where over 4.6 billion Oreos were made in 1997, alone.''' Memobug 19:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

There's no piece of food service equipment on earth that could handle 65 million pounds of ingredients at any single moment or in a single "batch". This would be equivalent to the combined weight of 382,000 adult human beings, or more than the weight of everyone in the city of Cincinnati, Ohio put together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.73.75.192 (talk) 14:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Should ALWAYS BE IN ALL CAPS?
It is ridiculous that this stylistic matter is emphasized as the first thing addressed in the article. Thousands of trademark owners emphasize their trademarks with ALL CAPS, but that does not make this style point an imperative for the whole world. Most formal publications, in fact, do not follow this kind of rule. I propose to remove this from the article. Acsenray (talk) 18:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Dsrl
None of this content should be included. It's just sneaking back in through the back door content that was deleted at Articles for deletion/Dsrl. As the closing admin says, it's just part of oreo's viral marketing. Dloh  cierekim  Deleted?  00:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC) The mention in this version is just about right. Dloh  cierekim  Deleted?  00:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, this article is used for marketing, for instance here. I remember having seen the pictures of this one before, so they're fairly effective in spamming the link around. Perhaps Wikipedia could use a toplist of most popular / direct-linked articles and a warning template at the top of the article? SiBo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC).

Baltimore Accent?
Removed this complete nonsense:

"Oreo" is the phonetic pronunciation of "Oriole" in the Baltimorean accent.

Uncited and completely ludicrous. 162.136.192.1 (talk) 19:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Article or advert
Seriously guys, this article has so much "Oreos sold this much making them the biggest selling cookie/biscuit evar!" stuff in it I'd be surprised if an employee of Oreo's manufactorer/marketer didn't write it. 193.132.145.151 (talk) 09:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Why does "DSLR" redirect here?
Why does "DSLR" redirect to this page? The acronym appears nowhere in the article - what does "DSLR" have to do with "Oreo"? - Brian Kendig (talk) 14:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, I just noticed "DSRL", or "Double Stuf Racing League", in this article. I hardly think that the number of people looking for "Double Stuf Racing League" and typoing the acronym as "DSLR" is greater than the number of people looking for DSLR cameras. I'll change the redirect for DSLR to point to Digital single-lens reflex camera unless anyone objects. - Brian Kendig (talk) 14:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Cakesters
Should the delectable cakesters be included in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.48.61 (talk) 17:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Double Section?
Haha, can I ask why there is both a "Varieties" section AND a "Variations and Adaptations" section? They completely repeat each other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.137.176.179 (talk) 19:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Oreo cows
These should be mentioned because they look like the cookies with their white band in the middle on an overall black cow. 65.167.146.130 (talk) 17:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a cookbook.
Wikipedia is not a cookbook, so I've moved this recipe from the 'as an ingredient' section.

The Best Recipe for Oreos

Oreo Milkshake Ingredients:

3 oreos

3 scoops of vanilla ice cream

250ml of milk

(serves 1)

1.Stick it all in a blender and enjoy!

(the dead link was in the original). 128.232.228.174 (talk) 18:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Not Vegetarian! (The filling contains gelatin)
This is an important issue because cookies tend to be vegetarian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.151.182.109 (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think that's true. Darktower 12345 (talk) 02:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

GMO?
Does it contain GMO ingredients?--Nemissimo (talk) 15:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It contains soybeans, and given that "In 1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the United States were genetically modified. In 2006, the figure was 89%.", unless a product makes specific claims that it uses non-GMO soy, then it's safe to assume that the soy is probably GMO. Oreos make no such claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubiscous (talk • contribs) 01:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

UK marketing to children?
The UK section correctly mentions that Oreos weren't well received when launched in the UK in 2008, and covers the reasons well. Currently (September 2009) Kraft appear to be marketing Oreos as a snack / treat for young children rather than adults or even families. Would this change of emphasis be worth noting in the article?

I can see there being lots of criticism of this marketing emphasis once the health lobby wakes up and notices it. Encouraging kids to eat lots of sugary biscuits isn't exactly in step with the times.

Dunking biscuits in glasses of milk - urgh - Americans are weird :-) --80.176.142.11 (talk) 18:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Why isn't Cookies listed in the Oreo names? It is on the current packaging.
''The Oreo was originally called the Oreo Biscuit. The name was later changed to the Oreo Sandwich in 1921. In 1948, the name was changed again to the Oreo Creme Sandwich. It was then changed to the Oreo Chocolate Sandwich in 1974.[3]''
 * Was it changed to Oreo Chocolate Sandwich or Oreo Chocolate Sandwich Cookies? Because the current bags call them Oreo Chocolate Sandwich Cookies.  Was that change in 1974, or did it come later on?   D r e a m Focus  04:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Health issues
Hello everyone. The past few times I have eaten some oreo cookies they have caused me to develop serious migraines always resulting in vomiting and pounding headaches. Does anyone have an idea of any chemical or ingredient in the cookies that might have an effect on brain activity or blood flow to the brain? I know that migraines are caused by a lack of blood to the brain and usually large amounts of stress but I haven't been stressed for a while. It's summer! As an addition I would like to know if anyone else has had any reactions to the cookies besides me (excluding allergic reactions). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.13.5.171 (talk) 05:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please ask the manufacturer. Allergic reactions can have many causes which can be highly individual. I'd recommend staying away from eating Oreos in your case.  It's not something like wheat or milk that are hard to avoid. 99.11.160.111 (talk) 08:28, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Martian Manhunters obsession
No mention of the DC Comics Characters Martian Manhunters decade long obsession with those cookies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.35.78.85 (talk) 20:39, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Irrelevant unless there are more cited instances in which Oreos are a major element in popular culture (not just the subject of a viral marketing campaign but a plot element or subject of an episode of a televison show) in which case a section on "Oreos in popular culture" might be useful69.140.172.170 (talk) 22:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)OSX86

Spain
There is an article about several countries that are actually not that important, could somebody with English that's better than mine add a section about oreo in Spain, cause I think that spain is one of the most important countries in europe if it comes to the topic oreo. If I'm wrong just ignore me, if not feel free to write about it --Ph9694 (talk) 08:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Biscuit / Cookie
In the History section is the sentence: It was commercialized in order to target the British market, whose biscuits were seen by Nabisco to be too 'ordinary'. While "biscuit" would be correct for the UK (and some other areas), Americans have a completely different concept of what a biscuit is. Would it be problematic to include "(cookies)" immediately following the word "biscuits" to clarify the meaning of the word for the American readers who have no idea that a "biscuit" can be a cookie? — al-Shimoni  (talk) 22:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * But the sentence you provide refers to the British market, so it's automatically assumed that biscuit is British? ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 23:04, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ideally, true. But, most Americans are unaware that "biscuit" can mean something else (from what they know) in a British market, thus may be easily confused by the term ("biscuit") in connection to a product they understand by a different term ("cookie"), with them understanding the first term ("biscuit") as something that never means the other. To these people, a biscuit is always a type of savory quick-leavened small bread loaf that is usually opened in half and spread with butter, or drowned in gravy and eaten with a fork. Because of this, I thought that it might be helpful to change "whose biscuits were" to read "whose biscuits (cookies) were" (or perhaps some other similar phrasing?) so uninformed Americans don't get too confused. (I'm not putting down Americans — I am one, myself — I'm just attempting to suggest something that may be helpful to fellow Americans). :) —  al-Shimoni  (talk) 00:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Triple Stuf?
There is no source listed for the claim of the existence of a triple stuf oreo. The only sites I can find that mention it use Wikipedia as a source. I can find no images of the package online. This seems like an urban legend, especially since the article claims such a very short window of distribution to explain why no one knows about them (1 month in a few unnamed cities? That seems unusually narrow for a product trial). Because I'm not an expert on the subject and this error is longstanding, I'll leave this here to see if there are any objections. Otherwise, I will have to be bold and remove that statement, which if untrue has mislead many others already. 205.175.123.7 (talk) 05:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just removed it. Please discuss here if you can find a source for this statement. 128.208.7.193 (talk) 06:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

China
Oreos for the Australian market are made in China. Gross. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.20.35.28 (talk) 05:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Too true! Why can't we get the american made one's...I refuse to eat them, I don't trust the chinese! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.91.172.197 (talk) 10:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

As an American living in China, I was skeptical, too! But actually, they're pretty good and for the most part taste the same as those made in America. The vanilla ice cream and birthday cake Oreos are surprisingly good. But they do have strange fruit combo flavors, like peach & grape, that are revolting and best to be avoided. (Sorry, I know casual chats are frowned upon in Wikipedia Talk pages). --Thumbtax (talk) 10:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Trans-Saturated fat
I removed the following text from the article. "Trans-saturated" is a contradiction in terms. If anyone with a clue about this cares to correct the following, then they can return it to the article.

On May 13, 2003, attorney Stephen Joseph filed a lawsuit charging Nabisco with using hydrogenated (or partially hydrogenated) oils (trans fats) to make the cookies. The suit was dropped as Nabisco considered replacing the hydrogenated oils with alternative oils. Joseph admitted he filed the lawsuit to call attention to the matter, and he considered his motion successful. As of January 2006, classic Oreo cookies are no longer manufactured with hydrogenated oils. Other varieties may not have eliminated hydrogenated oils completely.

The trans-fats had been added to the Oreo recipe to replace its original fat, lard. Earlier outcry regarding these types of saturated fats is what prompted the change to use more unsaturated fats in the first place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomViza (talk • contribs) 11:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Halloween/Spring oreos
also deserve a section in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.48.61 (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Issue
Reading this article it's impossible to discover what oreos actually are. 'sandwich cookie' could mean anything. you might get a vague idea if you carefully read the whole thing, have substantial external knowledge, and piece together bits of subtext which may or may not be accurate. reading this article you'll learn more about what oreos used to be than what they are, in addition to the fact that people around the world like oreos because they are best-selling "cookies". thats true, i guess, but if you were to look up cookies, they have very little in common with actually-existing oreos. what are oreos? we just don't know. 82.24.173.174 (talk) 01:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems pretty obvious to me. A sandwich cookie is one that has a filling between layers, like meat between two slices of bread is a sandwich. The rest of the article is quite clear, too. Either it's been cleaned up a lot since the last time you read it, or I think it's just you. 192.54.250.11 (talk) 22:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Etymology
the cookie was made with LARD -- i always assumed the name was a play on "oleo".

is that not even a theory out there? 173.9.95.217 (talk) 19:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I recall seeing an Oreo commercial on TV years ago which poked fun at the source of the name being unknown. It depicted the possibility that people at the company were having a meeting to try to name them, and they asked a guy who had a mouthful of the cookies, "what do you think we should call them?" and he tried to say "I don't know" but it came out "o re o" since his mouth was full. If anybody has a source for this, please add; all I have is my recollection of seeing it. 192.54.250.11 (talk) 22:50, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Different sizes?
I'm pretty sure that the kind sold in vending machines are a bit smaller than the ones sold in grocery stores... not as small as the minis, but just a bit smaller than the regular... anybody know for sure, with a source? 192.54.250.11 (talk) 22:52, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 15:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Conspiracy Theory
An alternative historian by the name of Scott Wolter has published a book in which he claims that the Oreo cookie design is laden with Templar symbolism and shows their secret links to the Jesus Bloodline Conspiracy. Not sure if this is sufficiently significant to include on the main page. The claim is ripped to shreds at:



Graham1973 (talk) 05:58, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Silly? article on addiction
News articles based on a research study of rats and Oreos are making the rounds, e.g., http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-oreo-cookies-addictive-cocaine-20131016,0,3166408.story .211.225.33.104 (talk) 00:30, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Why is this protected?
Just wanted to change "Double Stuf Oreo (introduced in 1974)[26] have about twice the normal amount of white cream filling. Available in peanut butter, original, cool mint or chocolate cream. In the UK they are called Double Stuff Oreo (note the double 'f') and are currently only available in original." to "Double Stuf Oreo (introduced in 1974)[26] have about twice the normal amount of white cream filling. Available in peanut butter, original, cool mint or chocolate cream. In the UK and Australia they are called Double Stuff Oreo (note the double 'f') and are currently only available in original." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.39.78 (talk) 03:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Prior version in the UK?
Random page-hopping provokes all kinds of memories. And, in this particular case, I seem to recall there already being an Oreo-type biscuit marketed in the UK in the early 80s. (Vague memories are that its name started with an 'R', and instead of white cream inner, chocolate inner. And Oreo-like, I'm not thinking of the 'chocolate-enclosed' Yoyos.)

I've no idea if this was an Oreo temporarily marketed by another name (like Lynx is the UK version of the anti-persperant elswhere known as Axe, though in this case with the subtle difference of the inner cream) and previously flopped (although I'm sure I ate a factory's-worth on my own!), or someone else's product (parallel evolution or a form pseudo-rip-off) that either fell out of public favour or hit legal issues due to the similarities.

Anyway, if anybody who reads this knows what on earth I'm talking about, I'm wondering if it might be worth a passing reference of some kind in the main article. Maybe not, so I'm not going to worry about it at all. I'll just let this comment stand on its own merit (however slight that might be, until someone posts an actual name for the things). 31.111.43.68 (talk) 01:25, 22 October 2013 (UTC) People are butt faces stop reading Wikipedia. It. Is ur only use they a aren't helpfulhi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.82.104.210 (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you thinking of "Bourbons"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.237.213.203 (talk) 18:23, 26 November 2014‎ (UTC)

"Oreo Cookie Blues"
Why was the part on "Oreo Cookie Blues" by Lonnie Mack and Stevie Ray Vaughan from Mack's Strike Like Lightning album deleted? I feel it's an important contribution to the article because it shows how popular Oreo is with musicians like Lonnie Mack. 65.87.43.151 (talk) 01:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

"They are not Vegan in the UK"
Oreo is not suitable for Vegans as they have the cross contact of Milk. http://www.oreo.co.uk/FAQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.166.172 (talk) 09:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Is the filled cupcake flavor out?
When I read about filled cupcake Oreos I was excited but it says release instead of released. And that really confused me to whether it's out or not Devalcz (talk) 02:04, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I think you missed them... they came out in February. I've changed the wording and sourced the claim with that article. On a side note, that flavor list is a mess. I'll see what I can do to fix it. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints&#124;Mistakes) 02:10, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Missing Citations
In the "Varieties" section, there are missing citations for the introduction of certain types of Oreo. Some of these include but not limited to: Mega Stuf Oreo, Football Oreo, Oreo Thins, Chocolate Oreos, and more. Dwab17 (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Oreo recall
In the history section, the text states: "there is a risk of cross-contamination from other dairy-containing products made in the same production areas." A voluntary recall for such cross-contamination actually occurred in October of 2016. Here is a link to the recall notice: http://us.mondelezinternational.com/~/media/MondelezCorporate/us/uploads/downloads/press-releases/2016/PR_MDLZ_OREO_RECALL.pdf I leave it to others more active on this page to decide if you want to include this in the article. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 19:34, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

All the varieties
Here's Every Oreo Flavor Ever Created, Teen Vogue, Ella Ceron JUN 19, 2017 4:31PM EDT

[Author's ranking]
 * 1) Reese's Peanut Butter Cup
 * 2) Candy Cane
 * 3) Birthday Cake
 * 4) S'mores
 * 5) Dunkin Donuts Mocha
 * 6) Pumpkin Spice
 * 7) Cookie Dough
 * 8) Peanut Butter
 * 9) Brownie Batter
 * 10) Mississippi Mud Pie
 * 11) Coconut
 * 12) Cookies and Cream
 * 13) Key Lime Pie
 * 14) Limeaid
 * 15) Lemon
 * 16) Creamsicle
 * 17) Strawberry Shortcake
 * 18) Triple Double Chocolate Mint
 * 19) White Fudge
 * 20) Original Oreo
 * 21) Filled Cupcake
 * 22) Chocolate
 * 23) Gingerbread
 * 24) Apple Pie
 * 25) Firework
 * 26) DQ Blizzard
 * 27) Berry Oreos
 * 28) Blueberry Pie
 * 29) Cinnamon Bun
 * 30) Jelly Donut
 * 31) Waffles and Syrup
 * 32) Golden Oreos
 * 33) Red Velvet
 * 34) Banana Split
 * 35) Fruity Crisp
 * 36) Strawberries and Cream
 * 37) Choco Chip
 * 38) Caramel Apple
 * 39) Inside Out
 * 40) Mint
 * 41) Root Beer Float
 * 42) Rainbow Sherbet
 * 43) Fruit Punch
 * 44) Cotton Candy
 * 45) Candy Corn
 * 46) Marshmallow Crispy
 * 47) Heads or Tails
 * 48) Watermelon
 * 49) Lemon Twist
 * 50) Halloween
 * 51) American Creme
 * 52) The seasonal Oreos
 * 53) Back to School
 * 54) Swedish Fish
 * 55) Peeps

I threw this in because the list was definitly missing some flavors. Group29 (talk) 00:08, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

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Biscuit/Cookie/Wafer compromise
The constant warring in the lede between cookie, biscuit and wafer is unhelpful. Preferences aside, the article gives dues weight to both the cookie and biscuit terminology. I've changed the term to "snack food" with nods to wafer, cookie, and biscuit included in the article text.  Orville1974  (talk) 18:53, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * At the risk of redundancy with "sweet crème filling" I just put "sweet" in front of "snack food" to distinguish it from savo(u)ry varieties such as crisps/chips. Not married to my edit, will see how it goes. Just plain Bill (talk) 19:05, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The phrase "sweet snack food" strikes me as awkward. I think we should just pick either "sandwich cookie" or "sandwich biscuit" as the primary term to use in the lead. I vote "sandwich cookie". Oreo is an American brand so it makes sense to give precedence to the American terminology. Here is my proposed wording:
 * Note also that I've eliminated the word "brand". I don't think it makes much sense to say that a "brand" consists of two wafers with creme filling. WanderingWanda (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note that https://www.Oreo.com, https://twitter.com/Oreo and, surprisingly, https://Oreo.co.uk all use the word "cookie". WanderingWanda (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note that https://www.Oreo.com, https://twitter.com/Oreo and, surprisingly, https://Oreo.co.uk all use the word "cookie". WanderingWanda (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2019
Change The term "Oreo" has been used as a disparaging and offensive reference to a black person who is perceived or judged to act in a "white manner". to The term "Oreo" has been used as a disparaging and offensive slur towards a black person who is perceived or judged to act in a "white manner. 204.186.240.186 (talk) 21:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌. Calling the term a "slur" seems reasonable to me – The New York Times does in this article – but I'm not sure that we need to gild the lily by calling it disparaging AND offensive AND a slur. WanderingWanda (talk) 22:24, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Guild the lily came up as an linking error. What do you mean exactly? 204.186.240.186 (talk) 00:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Gild the lily: "To embellish or improve something unnecessarily." I personally wouldn't add the word "slur" without removing the word "disparaging" and/or "offensive". WanderingWanda (talk) 02:05, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Oreodaphne and Hydrox
The cited article by Stella Parks makes the point,absent from the article,that the Oreodaphne laurel appears in the design of the Hydrox cookie (thus another way in which the Oreo was designed to imitate the Hydrox).This should be added to the etymology section.12.144.5.2 (talk) 02:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Variety of Oreo in Argentina: Oreo Alfajor
This was not mentioned in the article, but there is an alfajor edition of the Orioles biscuit product in Argentina (not sure about in the rest of Latin America). Online research shows the Oreo alfajor is built like the traditional alfajor cookie, with three Oreo cookie layers with sandwiched filling and dipped in chocolate. Hopefully this fits under International distribution, thanks.

49.193.111.37 (talk) 11:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Racism allegation
The content 7 name has to change from In popular culture, to naming it, Naming and racial slur, I have also put scourses to the racial slur which have been undone. 2001:8003:DC6D:DD00:4CE7:5CCA:6B38:3C37 (talk) 12:49, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

They're not relevant to the etymology. It's mentioned later in the article, you should add the sources there. Hammy (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Sunshine Biscuits v. Nabisco
History Channel's The Food That Built America Series 2 Episode 7 describes Jacob Loose v. Adolphus Green and Krispy v. Uneeda and Hydrox v.Oreo "Wars". Find original sources?
 * .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 20:14, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Peanut Allergies
I know the regular Oreos are fine for peanut allergies which is wonderful. I recently bought the snack packs where you dip the cookie in the cream. Are they also peanut free and not made in a facility that processes peanuts? 69.114.51.164 (talk) 02:41, 28 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The surest way to find out would be to ask the producer.
 * Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 15:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

creme?
The article uses the words "creme" or "crème" 48 times. It would be useful to know, at least generally, what this refers to. Wikipedia has no entry for creme. There's a disambiguation page for crème, but none of its options apply to Oreo. Nor does Wiktionary's definition, "a very sugary, fluffy white cream derivative" apply to Oreo, since none of the ingredients seem likely to have been derived from cream. {Previously unsigned contribution by 2602:306:bc65:5ca9:28af:e437:7ba3:2205, 12:00, 2022-06-28 (UTC) added by Steue (talk) 15:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)}


 * If you go to a supermarket you can read the list of ingredients.
 * Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 15:37, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * According to "The World Book Dictionary" (WBD) (edition of 1979) the only spelling is "cream".
 * And "crème" 1. redirects to "cream" and 2. means a type of liqueur.
 * The WBD of 1979 does not contain a "creme".
 * Ping welcome, Steue Steue (talk) 16:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Should an article be created on the doomsday vault?
It has enough media coverage and information to constitute its own article Helpingpeopleyay (talk) 05:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Changes to Recipe / Ingredients over time.
This is a big thing with me, but some find it trivial. As an older American who is also OCD (lifelong label reader) - I have noticed the differences in ingredients (and flavors) over the decades. I suspect that this is because of HFCS vs sugar, and the elimination of lard and other animal fats. OREOs were different in the 1960s - I know that much. But I am not willing or able now to do the research. Does anyone else care enough to add a section on changes? Maybe it's just me. Things are not what they used to be; and I believe they used to be much, much better. Who knows? Cheers all. 174.171.71.34 (talk) 07:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)