Talk:Organization of Kita and Minami Fortresses

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There was a second article, where the Minami Fortress was misspelled. I'll copy it here. If there is no useful information, please feel free to delete it. -- Mkill 14:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)


 * A duplicate. It's redirected, so it is more trouble than it's worth to delete it. (Redirects have minimal impact on database resources.) Charles Matthews 14:56, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Organization of Kita and Minani Fortresses
(Minani is a misspell of Minami)


 * -Kita Chisima Fortress:


 * -Shumushu


 * Shumushu Fortification Sistem:


 * 9 Fortified instalations and 20 coastal defenses positions commanded from Kataoka Fortress.


 * Japanese Army Units:
 * 73th Infantry Brigade(Mjr.Gen.Iwao Zugino)
 * 282nd Battalion
 * 283rd Battalion
 * 284th Battalion
 * 285th Battalion
 * 286th Battalion
 * 287th Battalion


 * 11th Tank Regiment(Col.Zueo Ikeda)
 * 12th or 2nd Tank Company


 * 91th Division
 * 1st Artillery Unit
 * 2nd Artillery Unit


 * 54th Air Regiment(4 Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa "Oscar",somes Nakajima Ki-44 "Tojo" and possibly Nakajima Ki-84 "Frank" too)


 * -Paramushiro

and 6 or more coastal defensive positions leaded from Kashibawara Fortress
 * Paramushiro Fortress
 * less 2 or possibly more Fortifications

Japanese Army Units: 91th Division Hq(Lt.Gen.Fuzai Tsutsumi) 74th Infantry Brigade(Major Zeiji Zato)
 * 4th Tank Company(detachment of 11th Tank Regiment)


 * -Japanese Navy Units in Shumushu and Paramushiro:
 * 51st Guards Unit(942 mens)
 * 52nd Guard Unit(333 mens)
 * Shumushu Signa Unit(42 mens)
 * 32th AA Defense Unit(18 mens)
 * Kita Chisima Naval Hq
 * North East Fleet(Kashibawara and Kataoka Bases)
 * North East Unit(189 men/4 Nakajima B5N2 "kate" and probably Aichi D2A3 "Val" or Yokosuka D2Y2 "Judy" dive bombers)
 * 12th Air Fleet Unit(equiped with Kawanishi H6K2 "Mavis"and Mitsubishi G4M2 "Bettys")
 * Shimushu Detachment,Naval Air Group 203(with A6M5 "Zeke"and Nakajima J1N1-S "Irving" nigth figther)
 * Such units was reinforced for sometimes by Sea plane tender "Kimikawa Maru"(with 452nd Air Fleet aboard equiped wiith Nakajima A6M2-N "Rufe" Hidro figthers)


 * There was also a Japanese air early warning radar of unspecified type on the southern cape of Paramushiro,Kurabu Zaki, but its view of Shumushu was likely blocked by the 5958 foot volcano (apparently named Suribachi, like the one on Iwo Jima) in the center of Paramushiro.


 * -Matsuwa
 * 41th Independent Mixed Regimen(Colonel Ueda)
 * 6th Independent Tank Company
 * Matsuwa Army Field Battalion
 * Matsuwa Air Intelligence Unit


 * -Uruppu
 * 129th Independent Mixed Brigade(Maj.Niho)
 * 53th Anchorange Unit
 * 6th Disembarcation Unit(800 mens)
 * 80th Airfield Battalion
 * Uruppu Air Intelligence Unit(800 mens)
 * 5th Independent Tank Company
 * 23th Independent AA Gun Company
 * Total of units:6,000 mens


 * Was possibly exist some units in Shashukotan(Ootome Base),Shimushiro(Itarkioi detachments) and Onnekotan(Torushiri Base).


 * -Minami Chisima Fortress:


 * -Etorofu


 * Etorofu Fortress

Defensive organization commanded from Etorofu Fortress,was divided in:

Etorofu District:
 * -Shibetoro County
 * Shibetoro Fortress


 * -Shana County
 * Shana Fortress
 * Bettobu Fortress


 * -Rubetsu or Etorofu County
 * Toshimoe Fortress
 * Rubetsu Fortress
 * Tennel Fortress
 * Naibo Fortress
 * Riyaushi Fortress
 * Tanemoe Fortress


 * Japanese Army Units:
 * 89th Division(Lt.Gen.Ogawa)
 * 3rd Mixed Brigade
 * 15th Independent Mortar Battalion
 * 6th Independent Machine Gun Battalion
 * 67th Independent Field Machine Cannon Company
 * 23th Independent Field AA Gun Company
 * 13th Independent Antitank Gun Company
 * 6th Shipping Engineer Regiment
 * Etorofu Air Intelligence Unit


 * -Shikotan
 * 4th Mixed Brigade
 * 23th Independent Machine Gun Battalion
 * 1st Mortar Company/15th Independent Mortar Battalion


 * -Kunashiri
 * 1st Battalion/4th Mixed Brigade
 * 23 Special Guards Company


 * Probably also stay detached others units in Habomai Archipielago(Kaigara Group,Suisho,Akiyuri,Yuri,Shibotsu and Taraku island)

Scope of article
In this article, several fortresses are grouped together. Would it not be more logical to have one article about each of them? Also, having separate articles about the organisation of the fortresses sounds having second to having articles about the fortresses themselves. The title of this page is very unintuitive. Maybe there already are articles about these fortresses, for instance under their Japanese romanised names? // habj 21:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Note:Kita fortress and minami fortress redirect to this article. RJFJR 15:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Period?
Imperial Japan, but when/what period? Possibly WWII? Hugo999 (talk) 07:00, 13 December 2011 (UTC)