Talk:Organizational studies/Archives/2011

Astrology
Rursus adds comment "--might seem far fetched, but if it is used, however irrational, it should be linked here, if it's NOT used, then remove it". If the link is valid, then it should be disambiguated. Since astrology is listed under "Personality Traits Theories", the implication is that it is natal astrology that is intended here, rather than the equally plausible (or implausible) katarchic, horary or mundane astrologies. But I think the key question here is not whether astrology is used in an organizational context, but whether any such use is notable and verifiable. And if astrology, why not tarot or feng shui? --RichardVeryard (talk) 12:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm overly conservative, but I can't see a reason why astrology should be linked in a scholarly entry on organizational studies. If it is linked here, why not in biology or sociology? Pundit | utter  14:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the criteria of notability and verifiability are sufficient here. If a president of the United States used astrology to determine auspicious dates for meetings, and this was properly verifiable, then it might well be notable as well. But who cares if a few unknown management consultants use astrology or drugs, or eat too many donuts, or read the works of Jung between meetings? --RichardVeryard (talk) 18:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Ambiguous / meaningless sentence
"In Europe these distinctions do exist as well, but are more rarely reflected in departmental divisions."

What does this sentence mean? Can't work it out! Ksaelagnulraon (talk) 21:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Strange deletion
Paragraphs deleted by editor Wafulz copied here for discussion: "These last years are the age of integrations, creating added value for the domain (and of course organizations) through a approach of open systems, diversity and 'partnerships'. One such example of integration is OIQ, Organizational Integrated Quality, combining implementation of QMS - Quality Management Systems with OD, Organizational Development. According to this model, developed by Meir Jacob and Dan Roseman (2008), attention to the psychological dynamics (like resistance to change, questions of identity, conflict between persons and between groups) back up organizational dynamics, resulting in a much more sustainable system. Attention to psychological and organizational dynamics while integrating a Quality System not only will deal with the typical resistance but just the same it will assure validity and accountability of a system." Why were these deleted? Please explain. Mondeo (talk) 18:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

success on a job
what do you think is more likely to lead to success on a job a good ability job fit or personality organization fit.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.24.189.42 (talk) 05:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * This is not a forum, but I suggest you look up recent review articles on this issue. Mondeo (talk) 12:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Missing Theory Z ?
I think there should be a refrence to Theory_Z possibbly in Specific Contributions Ziya Suzen (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, should be in Spec Contribution section. Regards, Mondeo (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Minor corrections
I added the two Journals Organization and Organization Studies to the list of journals primary focused on Organization, which they most obviously are, and deleted them from the section 'other journals'. They were also wrongly linked to the general entries on Organization resp. Organization Studies but not on sepcific entries about the journals. VonLoyola 18:59, 16 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by VonLoyola (talk • contribs)

Wrong link to the German wikipedia
"Organisationstheorie" is not the same like "Organizational studies":

"Organisationstheorie und Organisationsforschung haben den Zweck, Organisationen – ihr Entstehen, ihr Bestehen und ihre Funktionsweise – zu erklären und zu verstehen."

-> the theory is about the organization

VS

"Organizational studies, organizational behaviour, and organizational theory is the systematic study and careful application of knowledge about how people - as individuals and as groups - act within organizations."

-> the theory is about the people within the organization

If at all is the "Organisationstheorie" the superordinate concept of "Organizational studies"

-- 89.166.235.19 (talk) 20:09, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

problems
This is a vaguer unencyclopedic article that needs to be much more specifically sourced. The background is much too diffuse, and the number of links excessive. I'll get back to it if I have a chance.  DGG ( talk ) 03:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)