Talk:Orgy

Merge
discussion at Talk:Sex party (originally set 2 years ago) 72.228.177.92 (talk) 05:15, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Page history and talk page
This article was originally at the title Orgy (sex) before being moved to "Orgy" in [ [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orgy&diff=1257178&oldid=1257147 August 2003]. However, the title "Orgy (sex)" was deleted in February 2004 because it was an orphaned redirect, and the deletion archives were subsequently cleared in June 2004 due to a server crash. Therefore, all the old history of the article before the page move is lost permanently. However, the history of the old talk page has survived, and I've history merged it with the current talk page; it's text is below my message. Graham 87 15:04, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

From article: "The Greeks, Etruscans, Romans, and numerous other cultures, including the people of the California hot-tubber scene are known, in part, for this ritual."

In order: Which Greeks? (That's about a 3000- to 4000-year period, and it would be worth knowing whether this is Minoan Crete, Attic Greece, or the tenth century CE in Laconia. (I'm guessing not the third, but I want information.) Ditto which Romans? And, for all three and especially the Etruscans, can we have sources? (Ancient Greece and Rome, which is what I'm guessing User:Stevertigo is referring to, are better documented in their own words than the Etruscans.) And "The California hot-tubber scene" isn't a distinct culture, and I'd really want more on what sort of rituals are involved." I also deleted "celebrating life or some such" on the grounds that it's so vague as to be meaningless, thus leaving open the question of what these rituals actually signified. And, for that matter, was the orgy the entire ritual, or part of a larger ritual? Were there ceremonial musics? Locations? Invocations? Vicki Rosenzweig


 * An orgy, the dictionary tells us, is “a wild gathering, marked by promiscuous sexual activity, excessive drinking, etc.” Burgo Partridge tells us precisely what that has meant down through the ages. He begins with the Greeks, who celebrated sexuality at Dionysian festivals, and the Romans, who imported unwholesome brutalities into their orgiastic celebrations. We then learn of the penchant for group sex displayed by medieval popes, the junketings of Restoration England, the aristocratic hedonists of the Hellfire Club and Scotland’s notorious Wig Club, the orgiastic tastes of Casanova and the Marquis de Sade, right into the 20th century and the bizarre excesses of Aleister Crowley.

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 * Actually, "orgy" in the sense of sex party should be kept quite separate from orgia, the Greek term used for certain ecstatic religious rites, which is why I became exasperated with the nonsense here and created that article. The existing section is a summary section of the Main article. I'm not quite sure "orgy" in the sense of "sex revels" or whatever is anything but a lexical item; that is, I'm not convinced this article shouldn't be deleted, or that RS exist to create an encyclopedic article. Cynwolfe (talk) 16:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Orgy places
Where are these locations at? Brian pescador (talk) 21:39, 31 October 2017 (UTC)