Talk:Oriental Catholics

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedy deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because I found some references to Oriental Catholics in wikipedia such as the first one I found here and after a quick google background check discovered that Oriental Catholics are the Catholic counterpart to Oriental Orthodox which excludes the Eastern Orthodox Christians whose Catholic counterpart are the Byzantine Catholics. Oriental Catholics anr Byzantine Catholics are two branhes of the Eastern and Oriental Catholic Churches. Currently Wikipedia (and many other websites on the internet which seem to be making reference to wikipedia articles) does not assist readers in noticing a difference between Byzantine Catholics (the Byzantine Catholics wikilink currently redirects to only one of the Byzantine Catholic churches) from Oriental Catholics who use the Oriental Rites instead of the Byzantine rite. Perhaps the name of this article could be Oriental Rite Catholics to distinguish them from Byzantine Rite Catholics whose counterpart are the Eastern Orthodox not the Oriental Orthodox. Another alternative I can see is to correct the name of the Eastern Catholic Churches to correct Canon legal term Eastern and Oriental Catholic Churches article and make a section about Oriental Catholics and the Canon law that governs them in that article? I really hope some experienced editors will consider joining in to give this valid topic in Canon law a chance to develop into a useful reference article. Thanks --Chouvrtou (talk) 10:25, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The source used in the article refers to all 23 Eastern Catholic Churches and not to any subset of Oriental Catholic Churches. This distinction is not common. Elizium23 (talk) 20:30, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The article Edirne talks about Bulgarian Greek Catholics! They have nothing to do with Oriental Orthodox, they are from the Eastern Orthodox Church. Elizium23 (talk) 20:45, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This article is about legitimate and notable subject. The literature, scholarly and otherwise, is abundant (e.g., here and here). The article, rather, needs attention. Deleting it, would depress the chances that a willing editor would find it and improve it.-- Caballero / Historiador ⎌  19:27, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You don't understand that both of the sources you provide refer to the Eastern Catholic Churches by a synonym often used by Rome. Elizium23 (talk) 20:29, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We have an article on Oriental canon law and the Congregation for the Oriental Churches. The subject is more than adequately covered in the existing articles and the distinction between Eastern and Oriental is not made. Elizium23 (talk) 20:34, 12 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I think looking through these results will help clarify the issue. Oriental And Eastern Catholics are obviously treated together but there is clearly a difference between them. It would help to know How the Vatican distinguishes the two groups in Latin. My presumption is that they are referred to as Byzantine/Orthodox rite and Oriental rite respectively judging by the info provided in those links. Oriental and Eastern clearly are not synonyms for the same group. Chouvrtou (talk) 16:18, 13 December 2016 (UTC)