Talk:Oriental magpie

I was told by a few Korean friends that hearing a magpie in the morning means someone you lost from your life will be returning that day. After 3 years in Korea I have heard this bird almost every morning but it has not brought anyone back into my life.

Magpie instead of chicken
I'm rather dubious about the claim that chicken-on-a-stick are actually magpies, since chicken is not so rare and it's probably more work than it's worth to secretly use magpie meat instead. Perhaps in the past, but the rumors I've heard was they were pigeon meat, and I'm skeptical of them, too. Are there any reliable sources which can back up this claim being true in the past or the present? YooChung 14:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I am also dubious, because I tried to cook and eat an American magpie when I was a child ... the meat is dark, strong-tasting and extremely tough. There is also very little edible meat on the bird. After you get the feathers off, it's a very scrawny bird. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.42.126.18 (talk) 17:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

There is no evidence of the claim that the chicken-on-a-sticks in street are magpies in Korea. There are also many rumors that the sources of the meat are the domestic doves, the tree sprarrows and/or some buntings. However, in most cases, the meats used in chicken-on-a-sticks are not products of Korea, but are imported from China as ready-made goods; the meat is definitely a chicken, of course, due to a unit cost. Although the magpie and the other birds above are common both in Korea and China, a unit cost of production will be much more increased otherwise manufacturers use cheap and easily-available chickens in large quantities. Recently, because of safty and quaratine issues, the Korean custom temporary stopped inspecting chicken-on-a-sticks imported from China and most provisionors in Korea suffer from a shortage in stock. subbuteo95 (talk) 22:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Aren't Korea and China the same place? It would seem so due to the fact that the majority of the Korean magpie's range lies in China. If so, then this argument is moot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.203.236.170 (talk) 20:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Gene Flow
Article says: "the best explanation is that some limited gene flow still occurred until the onset of the last period of ice ages some 2.5-2 mya."

How exactly can "gene flow" keep two mtDNA groups linked?

It could produce a mixed population, with some individuals having the isolated (Korean) mtDNA and others a migrant mtDNA, but as mtDNA is (supposed to be) only maternally-inherited, the two mtDNA types could not "influence" each other after the initial maternal ancestor split.

Perhaps this is referring to nuclear DNA -- but the article previously only mentions an mtDNA testing of Magpies.

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Korean? magpie
According to the distribution map in the article, P. p. serica is not present on the Korean peninsula. Of course, the vernacular name could be misleading, but Korean cities can hardly pick a subspecies of magpie which are not present in the region, as their symbol. Creuzbourg (talk) 14:46, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Latin Name
Is the oriental magpie called pica serica or pica sericea? I am no ornithologist so I don't feel qualified to edit this, but I am seeing both names on different sites apparently referring to the same species. Teatime77 (talk) 00:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)